Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.  (Read 3119 times)

ymc226

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 107
I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« on: January 05, 2017, 06:07:33 pm »

I am a single user, hobbyist and currently am very happy with my Epson 3880 using Imageprint 9 and LR6.  I don't print much except in batches after each vacation.  So far the 3880 has required a print head cleaning session once after 4 years of use.  My needs are larger prints for my own use.

I'd rather not outsource my printing (of the larger format) as I enjoy it as much as taking photos and don't mind the relatively higher cost of prints that I create myself.  My concern is having clogged printing heads from Epson on models other than the 38xx series that would create. Reading a current thread on 44 inch printers, it seems both HP and Canon models would more rigorously resist print head clogs and if needed , the heads would be user replaceable.

 I've looked at B&H photo website and there are many HP and Canon models.  Are there specific photo print models one would recommend?
Logged

Mark D Segal

  • Contributor
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 12512
    • http://www.markdsegal.com
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2017, 06:12:07 pm »

Yes, if you want a really good 24 inch printer that has a small footprint for that size machine and not prone to requiring user-triggered nozzle cleaning, I would suggest the Canon Pro-2000.
Logged
Mark D Segal (formerly MarkDS)
Author: "Scanning Workflows with SilverFast 8....."

Mark Lindquist

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1537
  • itís not about the photos we take - itís the ones we leave
    • LINDQUIST STUDIOS
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 06:37:52 pm »

That's a nice looking printer there Mark with a nice looking price, for sure.

-Mark
Logged
Mark Lindquist
http://z3200.com, http://MarkLindquistPhotography.com
Lindquist Studios.com

deanwork

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1986
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2017, 12:38:31 pm »

I agree, that is what I would recommend these days.

john





That's a nice looking printer there Mark with a nice looking price, for sure.

-Mark
Logged

ymc226

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 107
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2017, 04:46:46 pm »

Thanks Mark.  I'll look at that model.
Logged

Jeremy Roussak

  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8818
    • site
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 01:56:55 pm »

Yes, if you want a really good 24 inch printer that has a small footprint for that size machine and not prone to requiring user-triggered nozzle cleaning, I would suggest the Canon Pro-2000.

Mark, I find myself in the same position as the OP. As I'm used to Epson, having a 3800, I have been looking at the Epson P7000, which is more or less the same price in the UK. Given that I live in Manchester, dry air is, shall we say, not likely to be a problem (so clogging isn't likely: it's never been an issue on the 3800, certainly).

Why do you recommend the Canon over the Epson?

Jeremy
Logged

Mark D Segal

  • Contributor
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 12512
    • http://www.markdsegal.com
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2017, 02:24:32 pm »

Mark, I find myself in the same position as the OP. As I'm used to Epson, having a 3800, I have been looking at the Epson P7000, which is more or less the same price in the UK. Given that I live in Manchester, dry air is, shall we say, not likely to be a problem (so clogging isn't likely: it's never been an issue on the 3800, certainly).

Why do you recommend the Canon over the Epson?

Jeremy

I don't in general recommend one brand over another; it all depends on one's priorities because there are trade-offs with everything. I was responding to a particular inquiry about the need for a wide carriage and smaller footprint and less likelihood of needing user intervention on nozzle cleaning despite longish periods of non-use; the Canon Pro-2000 happens to fit these specific requirements quite nicely, though time will tell about nozzle cleaning on the new x000 line of Epson printers. It is supposed to be much improved over previous generations of wider format machines, implying enhanced tolerance for infrequent use). The Canon has a unique design that does consume somewhat less space.
Logged
Mark D Segal (formerly MarkDS)
Author: "Scanning Workflows with SilverFast 8....."

erlingmmoe

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 18
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 05:09:08 pm »

Just got the Canon Pro-2000. Prints look great, but "small" is probably not the word I would use to describe it...
I upgraded from the Epson 3880, wanted to print larger, and from rolls. Did not dare to buy the Epsons due to multiple reports on clogging.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2017, 05:12:10 pm by erlingmmoe@gmail.om »
Logged
- ErlingMM

Mark D Segal

  • Contributor
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 12512
    • http://www.markdsegal.com
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2017, 06:27:51 pm »

Just got the Canon Pro-2000. Prints look great, but "small" is probably not the word I would use to describe it...
I upgraded from the Epson 3880, wanted to print larger, and from rolls. Did not dare to buy the Epsons due to multiple reports on clogging.

No it's not "small", but everything is relative to the alternatives. Congrats on your purchase and use it well - yes the prints are fine.

I have not seen reports on the new Epson SureColor printers clogging. You must be thinking of the older models.
Logged
Mark D Segal (formerly MarkDS)
Author: "Scanning Workflows with SilverFast 8....."

graeme

  • Guest
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2017, 05:43:45 pm »

Mark, I find myself in the same position as the OP. As I'm used to Epson, having a 3800, I have been looking at the Epson P7000, which is more or less the same price in the UK. Given that I live in Manchester, dry air is, shall we say, not likely to be a problem (so clogging isn't likely: it's never been an issue on the 3800, certainly).

Why do you recommend the Canon over the Epson?

Jeremy

Just out of interest, how well is your 3800 still working? I have an itch to do some serious printing but can't justify the expense of a serious printer. Am wondering whether it's worth looking on Ebay for a cheap 3800.

Dry air won't be an issue here either ( Todmorden, Lancs on the Pennines ).
Logged

Jeremy Roussak

  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8818
    • site
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2017, 06:09:18 pm »

Just out of interest, how well is your 3800 still working? I have an itch to do some serious printing but can't justify the expense of a serious printer. Am wondering whether it's worth looking on Ebay for a cheap 3800.

Dry air won't be an issue here either ( Todmorden, Lancs on the Pennines ).

Perfectly. It's been fairly lightly used over the last 8 or so years but it's performed very well indeed. I think the only time I've had a problem was when I forgot to open the output door, so the paper became stuck and I had a head strike. That needed some cleaning cycles (two, from memory).

As to whether it's worth buying second hand, well that's another matter, of course. You never know how much abuse it might have been given.

Jeremy
Logged

Rainer SLP

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 727
    • RS-Fotografia
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 06:15:01 pm »

Hi,

I was in a similar position last year and was deliberating between the EPSON SC P7000 and the Canon iPF Pro 2000. Finally I bought the EPSON SC P7000 in October 2016.

So far no clogging and it has been idle a few times up to 4 weeks and no problem. I used to have the old EPSON Stylus PRO 7500 and that one has been idle sometimes for 6 months and after 2-3 normal cleaning cycles no clogged nozzles at all.

About size, OK yes the Canon is 10" narrower  8) but anyhow getting such a 24" printer needs space so 10" more or less, I would say, makes not a big difference.

My main reason buying the EPSON SC P7000 was not based on clogging or not clogging but more on reliability of after sales service and ehre in Mexico the fact is EPSON is by far much better the Canon.
Logged
Thanks and regards Rainer
 I am here for

ymc226

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 107
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2017, 08:41:06 pm »

I looked at the Canon Pro 2000 and it was about 200+ pounds, similar to the Epson P7000 so a no go for the present since I will be moving from the East to the West coast in several years.  When I do, there will be no hesitation in getting a large format printer; I just don't want to be dealing with a large format printer for now, moving it out of the basement and repacking it for a move across country.  Thanks for all of your suggestions.  I will be getting a P5000 once the printer is supported by ImagePrint and adding the Epson P7000 or even P9000 once I get to Santa Monica from Princeton. Printing large in the 24-44" range will be another endeavor to learn once I am retired.
Logged

graeme

  • Guest
Re: I think I want a "small" 24 inch large format printer.
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2017, 04:55:59 am »

Perfectly. It's been fairly lightly used over the last 8 or so years but it's performed very well indeed. I think the only time I've had a problem was when I forgot to open the output door, so the paper became stuck and I had a head strike. That needed some cleaning cycles (two, from memory).

As to whether it's worth buying second hand, well that's another matter, of course. You never know how much abuse it might have been given.

Jeremy

Thanks Jeremy

Yes, I suppose buying a used printer will always be a gamble.

Graeme
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up