"Don't Panic"
Although I do question the mental sanity of the Flat-earthers, assuming they even believe themselves.
The recent video that Phil pointed at, mentioned as proof for the earth being flat that the Earth is stationary, and the sun only vanishes behind the horizon during sunset, because it moves further away ...
I rest my case. Enough time wasted.
Cheers,
Bart
This is wher eI don't bother eirther. Who am I to PERSONALLY understand and explain things. If X tells me so, I certainly wont be the first buying into what X tells me. So I rather try and see things for myself. Like the curvature test.
Bart, What if you went out and did a few tests in calm waters and saw for yourself and applied the math and calculated that the water you were measure was indeed level. What would you think of things then?
Then what do you do?
How do you interepret your personal well conducted and repeated observation? How can that apply to ALL the things you learned and studied? Besides that the formula, the theorem that defines and stablizes all the things we build on it. And those things we cannot explain, we simple rely on "smarter" people to come up with theories that can be proven in a model, yet we take for truth because some one or group or entity has said to take it as such.
We are in 2016. There are footage from a few commercial rockets that have gone up. and their footage shows that the rocket just hits the top. The video was made to just see how high it would go, and with lack of O2, and thrust it slowed down and then it made a hit at some top point, which to me is just something I cannot process.
WHat explanation do you have for this incident? Not any theory or what was supposed to happen. Assuming the footage is authentic. We have 2 camera views time synced. Which is a HUGE amount more than any "official" footage we have been provided by other organizations.
What do you make of that? Not to say its all hog wash, and the easiest thing to do is to not even addess it and repeat what you know.
Look at the evidence of this thread alone. From one test, we have 6 pages of explanations that tell you so many things about what we have ALREADY studied and can repeat it, expand on it, all nicely and with great intellect to boot. But it all has simply avoided a test that gives the basis of basic science that is the empirical evidence facts are based on.
I'd like to try and avoid the next pages to come in this thread to all be based on that of which we have already read and accepted as an understanding. And then go off into some piss match where one person read someone else theory and how they coinside and they are both happy they were able to reitterate this info as the gospal, and be merry.
I posted this hear in my curiosity with consideration that we not only have "scientists" here, but mainly observers. Those who have traveled and seen the horizon as I have on so many occasions, and for a brief second cross the mind that what I see is not always in sync with what I have studied and known to understand, but move on, as what I learned must be so. We have civil engineers here, pilots, sea captains, fisherman, coast guards, and mainly observers of how the sun rays fall on us. As we apply what we know in the practical world, and make a mental DISCONNECT when we talk of things we cannot, or have a hard time experiencing ourselves. Maybe not all of us, asi some can be thinking about everything as energy and such. But without theories....
....Maybe this needs a hypothetical approach to even consider doing a simple, documentable test? (As others have, and as it leave much open for dispute, or at least textbook conversation as in these pages).
uncut footage, GoFast Rocket
https://youtu.be/001IXnp0ogcIf this video doesn't tell you anything you can expand on, it should tell you one thing. We the mass public have enough tools and capabilities to conduct tests that help us understand and qualify what once only theories could.
