Election predictions

Clinton

9 (69.2%)

Trump

4 (30.8%)

Hung college

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 13

[pegelli]

Good to see an American appreciation of English humour some much needed levity...

Are there any left there after Brexit? 

[Alan Klein]

Good to see an American appreciation of English humour some much needed levity...

As an American, I wouldn't buy from that store.  I'd walk right by. Signs like that are why Clinton lost.  Basically her calling Trump supporters "deplorables", and the media and the left as well as Republican, Democrat and media elites not showing respect for many Americans who are just plain spoken people who are hurting due to the economic mess.  That sign is representative of all the late night talk show hosts laughing at these people who live in "fly over" country.  This is "Brexit" and will be the same stuff happening in other countries in Europe next year unless they learn the lesson and begin to understand and respect these people.

[pegelli]

C'mon Alan, don't take this so seriously. Sometimes a little humour and self reflection can actually help release the tension.

[Alan Klein]

I have no problem with Pence stating this as his belief. I have a big problem with someone in power having such a stupid belief.

You can't get a persons' vote if you call their religious beliefs "stupid".  This is why the Liberals, Democrats and media lost large swaths of the electorate. 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

C'mon Alan, don't take this so seriously. Sometimes a little humour and self reflection can actually help release the tension.

+1

[Alan Klein]

C'mon Alan, don't take this so seriously. Sometimes a little humour and self reflection can actually help release the tension.

The sign is cute and I do have a good sense of humor.  But I still wouldn't go in.  The thing is you have to understand the constant joke making in American media, Hollywood, TV, newspapers, late-night stand-up comedian shows, etc.  about people who have different views from the elite left.  The put downs, disrespect, jokes and other demeaning insults are constant.  Reminds me of the line from the comedian Rodney Dangerfield, "I don't get no respect." 

[Alan Klein]

OK I'll lighten up.  Here's what everyone thinks of everyone else. Pretty funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDqayC1sR7g

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

How do you get from a simple statement of fact, to the idea that I might be hoping for it?...

It is called a Freudian slip, Bill. You of all people should know it 

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

You can't get a persons' vote if you call their religious beliefs "stupid".  This is why the Liberals, Democrats and media lost large swaths of the electorate.

C'mon Alan, even the word 'stupid' has multiple possible meanings in the English language (even I as a non-native English speaker know that). Picking only the most negative of the possible meanings reflects a certain state of mind that's not an example of an agile mindset, and demonstrates a lack of humor to boot.

Cheers,
Bart

P.S. Frustration, even if understandable, is a poor guide for reactions.

[jeremyrh]

You can't get a persons' vote if you call their religious beliefs "stupid". 

I'm not looking to get peoples' votes, I'm just stating fact. The First Amendment guarantees the right to say what you believe. It does not create an obligation for anyone else to treat those expressed beliefs with anything other than the contempt they deserve.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

...The thing is you have to understand the constant joke making in American media, Hollywood, TV, newspapers, late-night stand-up comedian shows, etc.  about people who have different views from the elite left.  The put downs, disrespect, jokes and other demeaning insults are constant.... 

Then again, the other side also uses all that about the other other side too. Jokes and labels about minorities, fringe groups, etc. The PC crowd wants to impose a solution, by force if necessary, that will prohibit the other side from saying things they label non-PC, while reserving the right for themselves to continue labeling them as "racist, bigots. etc."  My solution is that we should be able to joke at each other expense relentlessly. As Pegelli pointed out, that actually releases the tension.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

C'mon Alan, even the word 'stupid' has multiple possible meanings in the English language (even I as a non-native English speaker know that). Picking only the most negative of the possible meanings reflects a certain state of mind that's not an example of an agile mindset, and demonstrates a lack of humor to boot.
Cheers,
Bart

P.S. Frustration, even if understandable, is a poor guide for reactions.

Oh. come on Bart! You've outdone yourself with that one. Calling someone stupid (or as you euphemistically phrased it as "a certain state of mind that's not an example of an agile mindset") for understanding the word "stupid" to mean "stupid" is well... stupid.

[Manoli]

As an American, I wouldn't buy from that store.  I'd walk right by.

Alan – a 'pub' isn't a store, it's a bar.

And I wouldn't have reposted it if it hadn't come from an American himself and anything but a 'leftie' – look him up on Wikipedia. The Brits are masters at self-deprecating humour – just this time by an American, on the other side of the pond.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Oh. come on Bart! You've outdone yourself with that one.

Thanks, I strive to improve myself.

Cheers,
Bart

[jfirneno]

You got to watch this:

Who's to blame for Trump? The left!

https://www.facebook.com/viralthread/videos/598130190359668/

There's an honest leftist.  Demonizing your enemies means ignoring the truth.  And the truth has a funny habit of being true.  If you made believe that Hillary Clinton was a good person it gets kinda hard to convince people that you know what you're talking about when you call Donald Trump Hitler.  And then when the Bernie voters saw on Wikileaks how their guy was screwed over by the DNC and the Media it really got kinda hard to feel morally superior to republicans or get excited about voting for the Harpy.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

The sign is cute ... But I still wouldn't go in...

I would... and ask if anyone would volunteer to be my chaperone and sponsor me for a pint

[pegelli]

Demonizing your enemies means ignoring the truth. 

Yup, Trump never demonized Clinton, right! That's probably why he won 

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Just noticed that. Is that a not-so-thinly vailed hope for a Trump's assassination?

And in a related news...

[Alan Klein]

Then again, the other side also uses all that about the other other side too. Jokes and labels about minorities, fringe groups, etc. The PC crowd wants to impose a solution, by force if necessary, that will prohibit the other side from saying things they label non-PC, while reserving the right for themselves to continue labeling them as "racist, bigots. etc."  My solution is that we should be able to joke at each other expense relentlessly. As Pegelli pointed out, that actually releases the tension.

I agree with you up to a point.  And that is the left controls the media, newspapers, Hollywood, etc.  So most of the insults and putdowns come from them.  It seems most of the jokesters on on both liberal coasts making fun of the flyover people in the middle in the middle of the country.  The very people in the swing states of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and Wisconsin who voted for Trump.

[Telecaster]

Updated 2016 numbers, reflecting ~1 million additional votes tallied:

Total turnout: 128.5m (-700K from 2012)
Clinton: 61.1m (-4.8m from Obama in 2012)
Trump: 60.5m (-400K from Romney in 2012)
3rd party: 6.9m (+4.5m from 2012)

-Dave-