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armand

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« on: November 01, 2016, 10:02:40 pm »

Did some focus stacking but wasn't particularly happy with the end result. I think converting to bw saved it. What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 06:22:35 am »

It did not save it for me, to be honest.

The composition and the contrast are distracting to me.

Unless you were trying for an abstract, that is.

What did the color version look like?
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 06:38:16 am »

I was assuming that the contrast and the composition was the point... so they didn't distract me from anything else. As a graphic image I like it.

Why don't you just ask yourself: "would I be happy to hang this on my wall?" (or put it in an album that you show to people, or whatever... do you smile when you see it?)

I think I would.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 08:49:00 am »

I think the leaves and their surfaces as objects themselves have lot of  potential, very interesting and worth continued shooting - and b/w. The composition though isn't really strong - dark void-like area on the left and then the leaves "move" rightward leading the eye away out of frame. I don't think the heavy contrast is helpful either because the image starts to become more about contrast and less about the leaves, shapes, and surface, i.e., the subject. Imogen Cunningham's images of plants might be a place to look for some options or strategies. Additionally, removing that black border is helpful when looking at an image like this.
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Re: bw
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 11:14:51 am »

Thank for the comments. Obviously I was looking for a more abstract interpretation and not accurately representing the leaves. The color version is kind of bland. I went through a bw version with less contrast that was almost equally appealing to me but then I was drawn to the dark side and came up with this bleaker version.

I could easily lighten the left side; starting in the center of the flower (positioned roughly by the rule of thirds for whatever it's worth) and following the leaves to the right was mostly by design, partially by the limitations of what I could reliably stitch. I was hoping the center is interesting enough that you will come back to it and do this all over again. Obviously it's not working this way for at least some of you.


I was assuming that the contrast and the composition was the point... so they didn't distract me from anything else. As a graphic image I like it.

Why don't you just ask yourself: "would I be happy to hang this on my wall?" (or put it in an album that you show to people, or whatever... do you smile when you see it?)

I think I would.

I do like it but I was ready to give up on it and then this came better than it appeared it will so I might be beyond being objective, therefore this post.

PS. in this last version of Photoshop something is screwed up, I cannot delete the layer masks as I used to in order to touch up the stitching errors and I can't figure out why. This made me install Helicon Focus and Zerene but their results were not significantly better, at least not the Helicon one.

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 04:14:36 pm »

(N)ice shot; not for my wall, but not a lot new ever is - I like what I framed years ago and shortage of walls dictates they stay there. Were it mine, it would certainly live in my website. Looking at your own work too long can confuse you a lot. Just accept you have good picture there. Let's face it: you've seen some stuff others post. Be happy.

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 10:07:19 pm »

I played a little with my original version, I added a second less contrasty and one of the original images from the stack (7 shots in total)

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Re: bw
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 10:46:49 pm »

At the moment my preference is for the second of the new three versions. A little softer than your first, but still with some punch.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 10:54:01 pm »

They don't work for me but I think the main problem is that it's just not a pretty plant.  The ice and frosting makes it worse. 

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 05:07:49 am »

They don't work for me but I think the main problem is that it's just not a pretty plant.  The ice and frosting makes it worse.

I'm not sure that they make it worse, but I have to agree that it's not a pretty plant, and that that's a problem for the shot.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 07:42:25 am »

I'm not sure that they make it worse, but I have to agree that it's not a pretty plant, and that that's a problem for the shot.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 01:18:03 pm »

Why does it have to be pretty? I think it has character, or at least I tried to install it with my processing. If I succeeded or not it's a different matter.
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