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leeonmaui

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el Salto Patagonia
« on: July 03, 2016, 12:24:55 am »

Fitz Roy River, El Salto Falls, Patagonia, Argentina
Pentax 645D 35mm FA stacked grads
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2016, 01:44:18 am »

Beautiful. The red makes it.

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2016, 03:36:43 am »

Do you have a toned down version? This is one of the most contrasty saturated images I have seen on the forum. The composition is fine but I think it is too vivid.

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2016, 04:33:30 am »

Do you have a toned down version? This is one of the most contrasty saturated images I have seen on the forum. The composition is fine but I think it is too vivid.

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 09:50:01 am »

I'm sure there is a great shot in there! 
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2016, 12:18:27 pm »

I really like it a lot be would like to see it with a bit less blue. You wouldn't loose those vivid reds. A toned down version would also be interesting.
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2016, 12:48:59 pm »

Do not change a thing. This is a fine art landscape shot, not a forensic court evidence. It is powerful, striking, eye-catching, and yet some would like to drag it down to mundane.

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2016, 01:45:13 pm »

Agree with our good friend Slobodan!! The whole thing needs to be just as it is!

Very nice!!
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2016, 02:23:19 pm »

Do not change a thing. This is a fine art landscape shot, not a forensic court evidence. It is powerful, striking, eye-catching, and yet some would like to drag it down to mundane.

And here-in lies the great schism... The photograph is very eye-catching and exudes richness. The photographer has certainly left their individual, unique mark on the scene through the chosen style of treatment. So I agree with you, Slobodan.

However, at the same time, the photograph comes across as artificial-looking in that it is a completely natural scene, made to look like a plasticky video game background lit with a black light (no offence intended, just the only descriptor that came to mind, thus showing my built-in bias!)

Is their anything wrong with draping one's own interpretation on a natural scene? Some would say no, others would say yes. Still others might claim, "But that's the way it was!", but they are the ones fooling themselves as a camera captured a representation of the scene via silicon into a series of 1s and 0s.

The realists quake and shiver; the more free-thinking artists say "Good on ya!"
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2016, 07:25:17 pm »

Feels like late evening in a deep gorge to me. I like it.

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 09:16:52 pm »

Well, I find myself on the side of the schism that includes Stamper, Graeme, Cornfield and Francois, rather than the side taken by my good friends Slobodan, Framah, and Sdwilsonsct.

As Shakespeare put it, in King John (Act 4 scene 2):

"To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,
To throw a perfume on the violet,
To smooth the ice, or add another hue
Unto the rainbow, or with taper-light
To seek the beauteous eye of heaven to garnish,
Is wasteful and ridiculous excess."

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2016, 09:23:13 pm »

I suspect that what we have here is another case of a breakdown in color management, rather than radically different artistic judgments. Those of us viewing the image on wide gamut monitors are seeing what seem to be outlandishly saturated colors (particularly blues and reds), whereas those viewing it on more standard sRGB devices are just seeing a normal (if a bit heavy) blue cast from evening shadows. (I have both types of devices handy.) When I take the image into PS, it has no assigned color profile. If I assign the sRGB profile to it, it looks the same on my wide gamut monitor as it does on the sRGB monitor. So I'm guessing that the OP did not see nor intend to portray the image in the more saturated manner.
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2016, 11:06:58 pm »

Fitz Roy Valley, Patagonia
Pentax 645D 35mm FA

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2016, 11:14:12 pm »

Well, I find myself on the side of the schism that includes Stamper, Graeme, Cornfield and Francois, rather than the side taken by my good friends Slobodan, Framah, and Sdwilsonsct.

As Shakespeare put it, in King John (Act 4 scene 2):

"To gild refined gold, to paint the lily,
To throw a perfume on the violet,
To smooth the ice, or add another hue
Unto the rainbow, or with taper-light
To seek the beauteous eye of heaven to garnish,
Is wasteful and ridiculous excess."

 ;)

This is a quote I must hang on to. Thanks Eric!
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2016, 01:47:07 am »

Well done!
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2016, 02:47:10 am »

Fitz Roy Valley, Patagonia
Pentax 645D 35mm FA

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Superb image! And completely circumvents any controversy over color.
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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2016, 05:02:25 am »


Superb image! And completely circumvents any controversy over color.
No, I don't think so.  I got turned-off the instant I saw it.  Completely over saturated.  Tone it down and you have a very nice image.

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2016, 05:09:32 am »

Well, I like it as it is. I suppose the folks who think it is oversaturated never used Velvia...

The B&W is wonderful too.

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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2016, 05:12:11 am »

The poster didn't state whether he thought that this was a realistic rendering that he saw or what the camera captured or it was his idea of artistry. Other members that have posted similar garish images have tried to "explain" that was the way it was and it should remain the way it is. Some scenes that are in shadow do have increased saturation and contrast due to the lack of direct light. Maybe the poster can enlighten us?

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Re: el Salto Patagonia
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 05:14:20 am »

Well, I like it as it is. I suppose the folks who think it is oversaturated never used Velvia...

The B&W is wonderful too.

If that is what what Velvia rendered then I am glad I never used it, then again I haven't shot film.  ;) BTW I like the B&W.
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