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aaronchan

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How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« on: January 22, 2016, 03:20:23 pm »

https://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Pro/SeriesSureColorP20000/Overview.do?UseCookie=yes

brand new design
new top sheet paper loading path
10 channel 9 inks
no MK PK switch
NEW Dark Gray Ink (makes is K4 now)
BRAND NEW printhead 800 nozzle (instead of 360/720 so it is different than the S-series)
2400 x 1200 (vs the old 2880 x 1440)

So I'm wonder for those who used to set their ppi to 360 for epson printer, I guess it's time to change it to something else.
I'm so excited about it because I'm planning to get a new 60"+ printer this year anyway.
Well, let's see if Canon would give me any frustration soon or not?

aaron
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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 06:41:17 pm »

Wow, a K4 printer from Epson!!!  Too bad I can't justify the 64" size.  I wonder how long before we'll see this new ink setup in the 44" and 24" size.  That would get me seriously interested as a replacement for my trusty 7-year old 7900.

Dave
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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 04:59:18 am »

Wonder why they kept the old design on the P7000 and P9000 and not this new design? Guess they don't sell enough of them.

Gar
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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2016, 09:07:03 am »

Epson has made this new 64" printer, but why don't they make rolls of canvas and paper beyond 60" width? Any thoughts about this? Canon makes the 9400 printer but they don't make rolls of canvas beyond 50" width to use with the printer. I wonder what decision making goes into determining what width the manufacturer will use? I will probably buy a P9000. At least Epson makes a 44" wide rolls of canvas and paper. Sorry for nitpicking. Ha!

Gar
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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2016, 10:28:12 am »

I have the original 11880. Bought it in 2008 and it was a great printer for the first 4 years (paid for itself many times over).  Then the missing nozzles, constant cleanings started and now its retired!  In 2008 the 11880 was selling for around $7200 with 110ml starter carts. The new one is $12,000.  Too bad the new 20000 has the  Take-up reel  as an option.

I bought a Canon ipf8300 in 2011 and have not had a single problem other than replacing two print heads (expected).  If I have to go back to the 60 in. class printer, it will be a Canon.
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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2016, 11:18:23 am »

I have the original 11880. Bought it in 2008 and it was a great printer for the first 4 years (paid for itself many times over).  Then the missing nozzles, constant cleanings started and now its retired!  In 2008 the 11880 was selling for around $7200 with 110ml starter carts. The new one is $12,000.  Too bad the new 20000 has the  Take-up reel  as an option.

I bought a Canon ipf8300 in 2011 and have not had a single problem other than replacing two print heads (expected).  If I have to go back to the 60 in. class printer, it will be a Canon.

I have never had a 11880 before. But I have a few 9800/9880, 8300, 9100, z3200, z6100 before.
every single printer has their own problem.
my friend had a 11880 for many years and it's still working like a horse.
after all these years, i believe buying a printer it's just like buy a car
part of it is just the matter of luck.
i've seen a nissan sentra ran for 25 years and it's still running, but a brand new toyota camry could break down for no reason within half a year.

aaron

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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 01:52:22 pm »

Epson has made this new 64" printer, but why don't they make rolls of canvas and paper beyond 60" width? Any thoughts about this? Canon makes the 9400 printer but they don't make rolls of canvas beyond 50" width to use with the printer. I wonder what decision making goes into determining what width the manufacturer will use? I will probably buy a P9000. At least Epson makes a 44" wide rolls of canvas and paper. Sorry for nitpicking. Ha!

I don't why you are so fixated on Epson papers and canvas, you can always do what Epson does and buy your paper from paper manufacturers.

B&H lists only seven papers available in 64, and three of those are Epson branded. It lists 170 papers at 60, which believe it or not, fit in a 64 printer.

Brian A
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Re: How many years already? And Finally a new Epson 64" printer
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2016, 11:07:16 am »

I have the original 11880. Bought it in 2008 and it was a great printer for the first 4 years (paid for itself many times over).  Then the missing nozzles, constant cleanings started and now its retired!  In 2008 the 11880 was selling for around $7200 with 110ml starter carts. The new one is $12,000.  Too bad the new 20000 has the  Take-up reel  as an option.

I bought a Canon ipf8300 in 2011 and have not had a single problem other than replacing two print heads (expected).  If I have to go back to the 60 in. class printer, it will be a Canon.

It will be interesting to see what the price of this settles down to, once the 'early adopters' have done with paying list price. They had $1000 and $2000 rebates on the 11880 many times over the past years, and it was possible to buy it for around $5000 at some points. Expect this to be $7-8000 after a year. Canon will fight too, for their 60" model market share, so expect some price competition in this area. Good for the consumer.  Ink is of course the rub here - when you compare prices, note that Epson, as usual, supplies its egregious 'Starter Carts' with a $12,000 printer(!) whereas Canon gives you a real set of carts, albeit the smaller ones. That's a couple of thousand dollars difference right there, as you'll have to buy a set of Epson carts right away, and be ~$2000 deeper in.

For those on a budget, the 11880 is a bargain. As many say here , it's a workhorse, very reliable, unlike the x900 range, and the ink carts can be found very cheaply on eBay, sold on by private sellers, in the $100-$200 range for 700ml. Expect more carts to appears there, as users switch to the new model. Makes a lot of difference, if you are on a budget.

I have no bias, and own both Canon and Epson LF printers, but will be looking to upgrade my 11880, to the new Epson or a Canon, when decent rebate offers begin.


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