Canson Infinity Baryta

[PeterAit]

Has anyone else gotten the impression that this paper is particularly prone to physical damage to the image, nicks and scratches and the like - or perhaps has more such imperfections out of the box? Am I just being more of a klutz than usual? It's a lovely paper, but I am throwing away too many prints due to these issues.

[michael]

I've been using it for several years and have never seen anything like this.

Maybe a recent batch problem.

Michael

[snowrs]

I have used this paper since it arrived without problems.  That said, I am very careful handling papers and know that this paper can be easily scratched if not handled with care by experimenting with scrap prints.

In fact, I would handle ALL baryta papers with care or pay the price!

bob snow

[Paul2660]

I find on the 9900, 24 and 36 rolls, the last 10 feet or so are pretty worthless unless you can drymount with a press due to the imprints that show up.  It also appears to me that Canson may have slightly changed the paper texture a bit.  I have 2 rolls left from a big purchase 2 years ago and I find the surface on these rolls overall smoother, but also easier to damage.  The rolls I have purchased in 2015 seem to be hardier to scratches and the like but you still have the imprint issues on the last 10 feet or so. 

I find I also see less bronzing with the Canson Baryta than with Platine, wish it was the other way as I still prefer Platine. 

Paul C

[DeanChriss]

I find on the 9900, 24 and 36 rolls, the last 10 feet or so are pretty worthless unless you can drymount with a press due to the imprints that show up.

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Paul C

Ilford GFS (nearly identical paper) has a compressible layer about 1/8" thick on the roll. The trailing edge of the paper is able to sink into that and thus leave much less impression on the adjacent layers of paper. There's still a couple turns of waste, but nothing like 10 feet. OTOH you'll pay more for fewer feet of IGFS, so in the end perhaps it's a wash.

[Paul2660]

Yes, similar to how Breathing color does all of their Canvas, which I love as the compression marks are canvas are a bitch.

I have suggested to Canson how simple it is to fix the issue, but they were not too concerned.

You actually start to see the compression imprint on Platine just about 2/3 through a roll, but the last 10 feet or so sometimes 15 are really visible. 

Paul C

[Malcolm Payne]

I had a long chat with Canson's technical expert about the compression ridges in their papers at The Photography Show in March this year. He was seriously interested in Epson & Breathing Color's use of padded cores to mitigate this and was going to look into it in more detail, so there's a possibility something may be in the works. I haven't heard anything further since then, though.

I mostly use Velin Museum Rag and Aquarelle Rag in 310/315gsm weights and simply write off the last 1.5-1.8m as scrap, so just factor that into the price. It's not entirely wasted as it's useful for test prints and sometimes I can squeeze some smaller prints in between the compression ridges, but it makes prints more expensive than they otherwise need be.

Malcolm

[DeanChriss]

IGFS and Hahnemuhle Photo Silk Baryta are reputed to be literally the same paper and nearly identical to Canson Baryta. The price per foot varies considerably between these papers with IGFS being highest and Hahnemuhle being the lowest the last time I checked. IGFS uses a padded core and has very little waste relative to Canson, so that helps to even things up between them.

Does anyone know whether Hahnemuhle uses the padded core?

[Geraldo Garcia]

Does anyone know whether Hahnemuhle uses the padded core?

No, unfortunately they don't use it.

[DeanChriss]

No, unfortunately they don't use it.

Thanks for the feedback.

[ThirstyDursty]

I too have found this paper to be very fragile. Dents, scratches etc.

Have been thinking about trying to find an alternative....but been so busy.

I only gave a 17inch printer...but have noticed marks...didn't consider that they might be from compression on the roll.