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Rule of thumb - shutter speed for moving foliage
« on: September 02, 2015, 06:18:06 am »

Does anyone have any rules of thumb for shutter speeds required when shooting landscapes and the foliage is moving around because of wind? (It's always windy where I live. If it isn't windy I wonder what's happened to the air.)

Normally I first set the aperture to what I need for depth of field and the shutter speed has to fall where it may. However, I don't really know until I process the results whether or not all the foliage has been blurred because of movement. It would be good to know in advance then perhaps I could compensate with higher ISOs.

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Re: Rule of thumb - shutter speed for moving foliage
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2015, 08:30:00 am »

Does anyone have any rules of thumb for shutter speeds required when shooting landscapes and the foliage is moving around because of wind? (It's always windy where I live. If it isn't windy I wonder what's happened to the air.)

Normally I first set the aperture to what I need for depth of field and the shutter speed has to fall where it may. However, I don't really know until I process the results whether or not all the foliage has been blurred because of movement. It would be good to know in advance then perhaps I could compensate with higher ISOs.

Hi Anthony,

As Keith said, there are no rules that universally apply. The subject's on sensor magnification (focal length and distance to the camera)
 will determine how much of its motion (wind direction and speed, and type of leaf) will be visible.

You are correct in choosing the Aperture for the DOF you need, and letting shutterspeed fall where it may. How important is the movement in the total scene's composition? If it distracts (rather than convey the type of weather condition) then using shorter shutter speeds is the only alternative (assuming no lulls in windforce). That may require boosting the ISO, which in turn may lead to loss of Dynamic range and more image noise. So it's a trade-off, no magic tricks to change that. The only thing I can think of is the use of a Tilt (and Shift) lens to allow the use of a wider aperture, yet use the Scheimpflug adjustment in the tilted plane of focus to (partially) compensate for that change in DOF.

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Re: Rule of thumb - shutter speed for moving foliage
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 09:31:51 pm »

Does anyone have any rules of thumb for shutter speeds required when shooting landscapes and the foliage is moving around because of wind? (It's always windy where I live. If it isn't windy I wonder what's happened to the air.)

Normally I first set the aperture to what I need for depth of field and the shutter speed has to fall where it may. However, I don't really know until I process the results whether or not all the foliage has been blurred because of movement. It would be good to know in advance then perhaps I could compensate with higher ISOs.

Anthony

It really is so variable that no rules apply consistently.  Recommend some experimentation in your area with various plants.  The you might use exposure bracketing to improve your chances.
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Re: Rule of thumb - shutter speed for moving foliage
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2015, 11:11:08 pm »

I exposed around ten shots to get this flower that was slightly moving in the wind.  Only one was caught with no noticeable movement.   I was shooting Velvia 50 film and was forced to use 1/8 second.  

Do something similar with trees - expose more shots and get lucky.  

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Re: Rule of thumb - shutter speed for moving foliage
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 11:09:31 pm »

The rule of thumb for shutter speed is to use the fastest you can. Shoot manual. A bigger camera always helps.
There are photography fads to shoot with the biggest stack of ND filters that you can and the longest exposure that you can but they are just silly.
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