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Anyone using a 50 Summilux asph 1.4 on sony A7/r/II
« on: June 04, 2015, 08:55:42 pm »

I have an A7II and the very good FE55 lens. Have an oportunity to aquire a Summilux 50mm asph 1.4. Anyone here have experience using both of these lenses? I enjoy MF for Fine Art Photography and street but given how good the FE performs, is the lux worth it? How different is the rendering and if you could choose one for the A7 which one would it be?


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Re: Anyone using a 50 Summilux asph 1.4 on sony A7/r/II
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 09:13:48 pm »

I have an A7II and the very good FE55 lens. Have an opportunity to acquire a Summilux 50mm asph 1.4. Anyone here have experience using both of these lenses?

Yes: http://blog.kasson.com/?p=5019

I enjoy MF for Fine Art Photography and street but given how good the FE performs, is the lux worth it?

No. It's worse on the a7II than on the M240.

How different is the rendering and if you could choose one for the A7 which one would it be?


The 'lux has a great center. It's not so good in the corners even with the M240, which has  a thin sensor stack. Even on the a7S the corners are, well, I  think the technical term is "lousy":

http://blog.kasson.com/?p=6382

For some things, that's fine; you don't need corner sharpness for portraits. For others, not so much.

BTW, the 50 'cron does much better on the a7x cameras.

Jim

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Re: Anyone using a 50 Summilux asph 1.4 on sony A7/r/II
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2015, 05:57:01 am »

Far be it for me to contradict Jim's excellent testing – so I'm not going to !
But there is a 'but' ..

I use (and own) the Zony 55, both the Cron and Lux 50's and a Sigma 50 Art ( F-mount). - all used on a Sony A7II.  Extreme corners are a problem on the Leica lenses and I would only use the Zony 55 and the Sigma for stitching purposes. But the 'Lux has 'something' about it, particularly for portraiture and crops that I just can't let go.

Prior to the Otus, it was generally considered 'the' lens, one of Leica's best ever. I think it still is and, yes, I do prefer it to the clinical examples of the Otus, that I've seen – but that is a totally unscientific, personal (and probably biased) POV.

In comparing these lenses on the Sony Ax series, one thing to bear in mind is that the Sony has a particularly thick sensor stack- hard to measure but Roger Cicala ( who keeps a database on sensor stacks) has estimated it at > 2.5mm. Removing the stack, in his words 'the most noticeable difference was in the outer 1/3 of the image area. The modified and unmodified cameras were just about identical in the inner 1/3 of the image with the greatest difference in the corners.'

How different is the rendering and if you could choose one for the A7 which one would it be?

It's probably my least used lens but also the one I'm least likely to let go of ..
Incidentally, if you can find a 75mm Lux (the pre-ASPH version) I'd also grab it , if financially possible, allegedly Mandler's favourite and with good reason.

Perhaps try the 'Lux on the A7 before committing ?

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Re: Anyone using a 50 Summilux asph 1.4 on sony A7/r/II
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2015, 06:21:26 am »

Jim thanks,

That's really the information that I needed. I really do love the rendering of the lux on an M body and was sort of hoping to get similar results on the A7II. I have a 75 Summicon APO version and the results are really great on the A7II body. It's just not getting used enough as I'm a 35/50 kind of guy ;)

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Re: Anyone using a 50 Summilux asph 1.4 on sony A7/r/II
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2015, 06:28:15 am »

Thanks Manoli

I think if I still had an M body I would be getting the Lux. Too many shortcomings on the A7's to make it viable I think. I saw some beautiful portraits taken with the combo but only web versions and I loved the OOF at 1.4 (the shot probably benefited from the soft corners). Problem is I like to frame subjects off center a lot so this is a deal breaker for me! I use the 75 cron APO now which is really great on the A7II but as I said above it's not getting enough use so I'm selling this one ;)

Thanks for your input

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John
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