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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: john beardsworth on December 11, 2018, 03:43:09 am

Title: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: john beardsworth on December 11, 2018, 03:43:09 am
Lightroom 8.1 (https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html) is out.

Some people may like to reorder the panels in Develop's right hand side. But for me the best new detail is that photos can now snap to a grid in Book which brings together the other recent changes allowing much more flexibility over layout.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: howardm on December 12, 2018, 06:15:07 pm
can you only do/change Develop or can I mod the Library (leftside)?
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: digitaldog on December 12, 2018, 08:57:24 pm
Just Develop.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: [email protected] on December 13, 2018, 04:14:04 am
Any problems with the update?
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 13, 2018, 10:57:08 am
I haven't read or noticed anything.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: leuallen on December 13, 2018, 05:09:12 pm
Did not fix bug when going from LR to PS most commands will not be available unless PS was already running or you checked "Do not use Home screen" in preferences.

In other word if you go to PS from LR and PS is not already running and you have not checked the preferences above, you can do nothing. PS is dead to you. Windows bug.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 17, 2018, 01:52:04 pm
If you disable the Home screen (preferences - general) it will work properly if you send a file from LR to PS if it is not opened. You have restart PS to get rid of it. 
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: digitaldog on December 17, 2018, 03:00:36 pm
Did not fix bug when going from LR to PS most commands will not be available unless PS was already running or you checked "Do not use Home screen" in preferences.

In other word if you go to PS from LR and PS is not already running and you have not checked the preferences above, you can do nothing. PS is dead to you. Windows bug.
That's a Photoshop bug so no.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: faberryman on December 17, 2018, 03:14:31 pm
If you disable the Home screen (preferences - general) it will work properly if you send a file from LR to PS if it is not opened. You have restart PS to get rid of it.
I don't see a "disable Home screen" option in preferences-general. I am running Windows 8.1. Is that a Windows 10 specific selection?
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: howardm on December 17, 2018, 03:42:43 pm
it's got a slightly different wording but it's on the General screen.  Something like 3rd down on the left.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: leuallen on December 17, 2018, 04:18:38 pm
There is a new bug, at least for me. Start LR, it crashes on opening with a send crash report. Start LR immediately after that, it opens normally. Has happened quite a few times.

Larry
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 17, 2018, 05:30:51 pm
I don't see a "disable Home screen" option in preferences-general. I am running Windows 8.1. Is that a Windows 10 specific selection?

Sorry I'm a Mac user.   
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: digitaldog on December 17, 2018, 06:50:23 pm
First off, the bug doesn't affect Mac users.  ;D
Second:

Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 18, 2018, 12:06:11 pm
Yeah I know. I just read about it somewhere else and posted it. Thought it might help someone. 
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 26, 2018, 07:39:29 pm
There is another bug. If you apply the Auto preset using the Apply During Import command the results are all over the place compared to using it in the Develop module. You can use that preset when in the Develop module or the Auto command in the Basic window and both yield the same results. Adobe has been notified.       
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: john beardsworth on December 27, 2018, 02:58:16 am
It's not a bug - it's the result of trying to balance ease of use with speed. When Auto is applied to multiple images (as in Import, Grid, AutoSync), LR doesn't calculate each image's Auto settings - it uses the most-selected and applies that to the rest. So let's say you applied Auto to a batcch of images. When you then take any individual image into Develop you see that the Auto button is enabled, indicating that that image's settings are not Auto.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 27, 2018, 10:04:12 am
If I created a second RAW file from an original, renamed it, imported it using Auto and then imported the original not using Auto and applied it later shouldn't both be the same?       
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: john beardsworth on December 27, 2018, 10:20:27 am
Yes, they should be if you are importing a single file.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 27, 2018, 10:33:47 am
They aren't. First image is from applying Auto at import. 
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 27, 2018, 10:49:32 am
If you use the Preset in the Develop module it matches the results using Auto in the Basic window.     
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: john beardsworth on December 27, 2018, 11:41:39 am
What exactly do you mean by the "preset" in the Develop window? I assume you mean the Auto button?

And I would wonder what you mean by "the Auto preset". One you have created? Review the preset and check that you are doing the identical thing in Develop. One one detail would also be any default that you have set for the camera, and this could affect any setting not covered by the preset.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 27, 2018, 12:34:39 pm
What exactly do you mean by the "preset" in the Develop window? I assume you mean the Auto button?

And I would wonder what you mean by "the Auto preset". One you have created? Review the preset and check that you are doing the identical thing in Develop. One one detail would also be any default that you have set for the camera, and this could affect any setting not covered by the preset.

Not a created preset. The Auto Setting in the Classic General group. Two files - original and a copy both imported separately. I applied Auto Settings from that group when I imported one file. For the other file I applied Auto in the Basic window. I can select Auto in the Basic window or from the Presets and both yield the same results. The file that had Auto applied during import is way off.               
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: john beardsworth on December 27, 2018, 12:36:10 pm
One thing that might lead to a difference is whatever preview is being used by an Auto preset applied by Import. This would differ from the raw data loaded in Develop.
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: Zen8 on December 27, 2018, 01:08:21 pm
I'm using 1:1. Yes I also read that changing previews will change results. This was why I posted this. Just in case someone has tried it or is new to LR hears about the improved Sensei but gets lousy results. Not sure if Adobe will do something about it but it can't help if some is trying it out or not using it because they have not realized what is going on.

If anyone wants to apply Auto to more than one file there is a plug-in that will do it.                       
Title: Re: Lightroom 8.1
Post by: dreed on January 27, 2019, 06:26:19 am
Any problems with the update?

Memory leaks. I can do one or maybe two HDR merges before needing to quit. On import just now, it killed Opera. Or maybe it is just a memory pig.

But at least they've fixed the keyword issues.