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The Art of Photography => Street Showcase => Topic started by: Rob C on May 12, 2018, 03:37:30 pm

Title: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 12, 2018, 03:37:30 pm
Okay, it was suggested we set up a street section.

In the hope that the management will agree to do that, here's a taster, no, a leap off the high board into the deep end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC2mjwwtAQo

Tells you all you need to know; the streets are yours - go use 'em!

;-)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: OmerV on May 12, 2018, 04:29:48 pm
That's a high standard you've set, Rob.

Still, here's one:
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: RSL on May 12, 2018, 04:35:32 pm
Klein's stuff was unusual -- at least at the time. He overexposed, underexposed, blew out highlights, submerged lows. But the stuff was dynamic. It's not my cuppa tea, but it's worth studying his work.

And, Omer, from the look on that girl's face it's probably a good thing you didn't get close enough for her to whack you with a coffee pot.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 12, 2018, 04:36:49 pm
That's a high standard you've set, Rob.

Still, here's one:


No, it's one the twenty-something-year-old Klein set!

I can only wish.

Rob
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: OmerV on May 12, 2018, 07:00:00 pm
Klein's stuff was unusual -- at least at the time. He overexposed, underexposed, blew out highlights, submerged lows. But the stuff was dynamic. It's not my cuppa tea, but it's worth studying his work.

And, Omer, from the look on that girl's face it's probably a good thing you didn't get close enough for her to whack you with a coffee pot.

She wasn’t angry, we both smiled after I put the camera down.


No, it's one the twenty-something-year-old Klein set!

I can only wish.

Rob

I know Klein’s work, and as Russ suggests, Klein had a wild but powerful style. He is a favorite.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 13, 2018, 06:10:29 am
I've yet to see a convincing definition of the genre.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 13, 2018, 06:51:48 am
I've yet to see a convincing definition of the genre.

It's easier to subdivide it into what isn't street. And I don't think that much of what goes for street today actually is.

Fortunately, I have about five minutes before I must leave for lunch, so I can escape any analysis of what is or is not street according to my own quirks and prejudices!

;-)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 13, 2018, 07:29:20 am
It's easier to subdivide it into what isn't street. And I don't think that much of what goes for street today actually is.

Fortunately, I have about five minutes before I must leave for lunch, so I can escape any analysis of what is or is not street according to my own quirks and prejudices!

;-)

No hurry, Rob, on your return will do.

;-)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: 32BT on May 13, 2018, 07:45:58 am
I've yet to see a convincing definition of the genre.

Ha, but that isn't needed to subdivide the forum. First of all we only need a convincing defenition amongst ourselves here (admittedly, an improbability), but moreover, we all probably do agree on one thing; that it is not landscape photography.

For me, the idea that seems to be used most on this forum is that streetphotography is a picture that illustrates a story, preferably including an ambiguity and/or metaphore.

Just shooting random people, especially in dire circumstances, doesn't seem to fit that bill, although i can live quite happily with good streetportraits being part of such a subforum. We might find the proper definition as we go?
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: RSL on May 13, 2018, 08:17:55 am
I've yet to see a convincing definition of the genre.

And you never will, Keith. To understand what street is you have to study the work of the people who defined the genre -- not with words but with photographs. HCB, of course, is at the top of that list. Robert Frank is another major influence on street, as are Walker Evans and Garry Winogrand. I could go on with a longer study list, but you can see a bunch of them in my photographic bibliography.

But street isn't the only genre you can't really define. Try landscape. We all know what landscape is. Right? Is a picture of a bush landscape? Is a closeup of a tree trunk landscape? Check the landscape section and see what you think.

As is the case with any genre, there are good examples and bad examples, but all examples fall somewhere within reach of a central idea.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 13, 2018, 08:39:37 am
Well, for the definition-hungry, one definition of "Landscape" is an image that is wider than it is high. The other way is a "Portrait."
So maybe "Street" is ... ???    ???

The best definition of Street photography, IMHO, is what Russ just suggested: Look at what those four were doing.
As for Klein's New York book that Rob posted, I feel that probably less than half of the images are what I would consider Street. Many of the others were clearly directed by Klein, which takes them out of the purist Street category (IMHO, of course.)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on May 13, 2018, 09:20:50 am
I have added a Street Forum (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?board=68.0).

I believe that some of Michael Reichmann's strongest photography was street and documentary. Certainly in the last few years of his life, some of his happiest hours were walking the streets of San Miguel de Allende. His eye was quick and decisive - often highly successful. I will post occasional images of his there.

Chris
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on May 13, 2018, 09:24:09 am
PM me if you would like one or some of the current 'Street' threads re-posted there
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 13, 2018, 09:41:10 am
PM me if you would like one or some of the current 'Street' threads re-posted there

Great stuff, Chris! And thanks!

For my part, I'd be perfectly happy for you to put anything I have posted on the topic into the new section.

Rob
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: OmerV on May 13, 2018, 09:51:07 am
PM me if you would like one or some of the current 'Street' threads re-posted there

You could move this entire thread into the new Street Forum. I don't mind and if the other posters don't mind.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: RSL on May 13, 2018, 10:32:10 am
Thanks, Chris. And thanks too for the insight into Michael's approach to photography. He was the real thing. Miss him.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: BobDavid on May 13, 2018, 11:40:37 am
Thanks, Chris. And thanks too for the insight into Michael's approach to photography. He was the real thing. Miss him.

+1
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 13, 2018, 11:56:41 am
Thanks, Chris. And thanks too for the insight into Michael's approach to photography. He was the real thing. Miss him.

Too true!

Rob
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 13, 2018, 12:25:21 pm
Great news! Thanks for that, Chris, and for reminding us again of the variety Michael's vision.

Eric
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 13, 2018, 01:49:21 pm
I've yet to see a convincing definition of the genre.

Street candids?
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: stamper on May 14, 2018, 06:13:58 am
This thread has re kindled my interest in street photography which I had abandoned for a while. Could be a very interesting forum if it remains civil? :)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 14, 2018, 08:12:03 am
This thread has re kindled my interest in street photography which I had abandoned for a while. Could be a very interesting forum if it remains civil? :)
If you ignore the endless discussions about definitions and terminology, I think "Street" (or whatever) is going to provide a goldmine here.

It's good to have you back, Stamper.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 14, 2018, 08:16:45 am
If you ignore the endless discussions about definitions and terminology, I think "Street" (or whatever) is going to provide a goldmine here.

It's good to have you back, Stamper.

Certainly looks that way!
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 14, 2018, 01:43:32 pm
If you ignore the endless discussions about definitions and terminology, I think "Street" (or whatever) is going to provide a goldmine here.

It's good to have you back, Stamper.

"Street or Whatever" seems a pretty good, all-encompassing new name that will please all and delight none!

:-)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 15, 2018, 03:33:07 am
This thread has re kindled my interest in street photography which I had abandoned for a while. Could be a very interesting forum if it remains civil? :)

I'm pleased to see you back. I shall do my best to keep the civility levels high.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: stamper on May 15, 2018, 03:54:48 am
Thanks
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 15, 2018, 12:43:31 pm
Hell, this place is buzzing. If it carries on this place will need to be renamed The Luminous Street.

;-)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: stamper on May 15, 2018, 12:49:22 pm
Hell, this place is buzzing. If it carries on this place will need to be renamed The Luminous Street.

;-)
:) :) :)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: 32BT on May 15, 2018, 01:06:03 pm
"Street or Whatever" seems a pretty good, all-encompassing new name that will please all and delight none!

:-)

+1

Or call it the Human Interest section. Some are just more interested/interesting than others...
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 15, 2018, 01:16:22 pm
"Street or Whatever" seems a pretty good, all-encompassing new name that will please all and delight none!

:-)

Yup, I like the casual inference.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Telecaster on May 15, 2018, 03:32:56 pm
"Street or Whatever" works for me too. I love urban photography, with and without people, out- and in-doors.

-Dave-
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 15, 2018, 04:25:29 pm
"Street or Whatever" works for me too. I love urban photography, with and without people, out- and in-doors.

-Dave-

I'm tempted to rename the Without Prejudice: Street thread to Without Prejudice: Street or Whatever.

?
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 15, 2018, 04:34:10 pm
I'm tempted to rename the Without Prejudice: Street thread to Without Prejudice: Street or Whatever.

?

Y knot?

Rob
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 15, 2018, 04:54:00 pm
Y knot?

Rob

Done.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: fredjeang2 on May 15, 2018, 05:36:05 pm
Yup, I like the casual inference.
I'm trying to figure out how british language managed to group together the concept of casual with inference, as in french it's not working.
If I understand a possible meaning it would besomething like: informal deduction?
Is it correct or does it have another meaning?
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: KLaban on May 16, 2018, 04:58:59 am
I'm trying to figure out how british language managed to group together the concept of casual with inference, as in french it's not working.
If I understand a possible meaning it would besomething like: informal deduction?
Is it correct or does it have another meaning?

...my casual understanding that was based on suggestion rather than a statement.

;-)
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: fredjeang2 on May 16, 2018, 05:49:35 am
...my casual understanding that was based on suggestion rather than a statement.

;-)
Thanks Keith.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Only Street
Post by: Rob C on May 16, 2018, 07:17:10 am
I'm trying to figure out how british language managed to group together the concept of casual with inference, as in french it's not working.
If I understand a possible meaning it would besomething like: informal deduction?
Is it correct or does it have another meaning?

It's a version of the double negative that English speakers find confusing at first, but have probably grown used to because of the programmes on tv. Probably.

"Ain't never not doin' that no mo'"  ?