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James Clark

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1080 on: April 12, 2021, 12:53:13 pm »

I have read all kinds of stuff. This new news which might be old news is just a piece of an ever evolving puzzle. I would not in the least bit be surprised if this is updated over time as new data is acquired. Certainly if scientists later say the effectiveness period is four months or eight months or whatever, I am going to throw my hands up in the air and lose confidence or trust in science. If and when the scientists determine I need another vaccination or booster or whatever, I'll get it. I also put the recommended air pressure in my tires.

Are you TRYING to start a fight??????
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« Reply #1081 on: April 12, 2021, 12:57:16 pm »

Are you TRYING to start a fight??????

No. I guess I am just pointing out how gullible I am.  It's kind of like when I go to the doctor and he tells me I have high cholesterol and need to make some adjustments in my diet, I don't try to figure out who his master is or get two or three other opinions. I don't even say let's go three out of five with the blood work.
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« Reply #1082 on: April 12, 2021, 01:07:12 pm »

Are Canadians being forced to get shots?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Zz2eZWyQsD4K/

Only when the civil service health police panels demand it. They don't do it to everyone, they just pick out some high profile cases so the rest of us fall in line.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1083 on: April 12, 2021, 01:09:25 pm »

The problem with science changing and researchers' "flip-flopping" is not something the public doesn't appreciate under normal circumstances.  They can understand the knowledge of science changes.   The issue is that politicians have deliberately selected certain scientific claims of the moment to push a particular social policy.  On both sides.  So the average schnook, caught between a rock and a hard spot, who isn't stupid, sees through the hustle and ignores what might otherwise be good advice.

Especially when the same political side pushes two contradictory messages.  Over the weekend it broke that conservatives just are not posting vaccine selfies online, and, well, that should be concerning.  Stelter, of liberal CNN, was really concerned about this, and had a good whining session on his show over it.  Meanwhile, rabid lefty Joy Reid engaged in vaccine denialism by insisting that even after getting vaccinated, we should continue to double mask, not invite people over or go out to enjoy ourselves, because, I guess, she thinks they're ineffective. 

It's so hard to nail down the messaging here.  Do these vaccines actually work or is it just a senseless passing fad that really does nothing?  I've all but given up hope at ever really figuring out what the stance on the left is other then being for the eternal hobbit who never leaves the house. 

But anyway, my wife and I this Sunday found a seemingly random yet classic "middle of the block" Philly old-man's bar in what use to be a row house around the corner from us to watch round 4 of The Master's.  Walked in, no-one was wearing a mask, we then asked if they really needed us to order food to get a drink, to which they replied, to our delight, "yeah we dont follow those rules."  Appalled by the total disrespect at our city's Supremes, we decided it was our kind of place and had a few drinks without food while watching Japan kick everyones ass for the first time in 80 years.
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faberryman

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1084 on: April 12, 2021, 01:16:45 pm »

Especially when the same political side pushes two contradictory messages.  Over the weekend it broke that conservatives just are not posting vaccine selfies online, and, well, that should be concerning.  Stelter, of liberal CNN, was really concerned about this, and had a good whining session on his show over it.  Meanwhile, rabid lefty Joy Reid engaged in vaccine denialism by insisting that even after getting vaccinated, we should continue to double mask, not invite people over or go out to enjoy ourselves, because, I guess, she thinks they're ineffective. 

It's so hard to nail down the messaging here.  Do these vaccines actually work or is it just a senseless passing fad that really does nothing?  I've all but given up hope at ever really figuring out what the stance on the left is other then being for the eternal hobbit who never leaves the house.

May I make a suggestion? Don't take medical advice from Brian Stelter or Joy Reid, or if you do, don't complain about being confused.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1085 on: April 12, 2021, 01:57:03 pm »

Only when the civil service health police panels demand it. They don't do it to everyone, they just pick out some high profile cases so the rest of us fall in line.
Who can they demand to have the shots?  What happens if you refuse?

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« Reply #1086 on: April 12, 2021, 02:03:27 pm »

Who can they demand to have the shots?  What happens if you refuse?

I think you would have to e-mail the guy in the video and ask him.
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« Reply #1087 on: April 12, 2021, 02:08:09 pm »

I think you would have to e-mail the guy in the video and ask him.
I directed my question to Robert who posted it and is a Canadian and would know more about it than you.  You don't have to be a wise guy with every post I make. 

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« Reply #1088 on: April 12, 2021, 02:08:47 pm »

I directed my question to Robert who posted it and is a Canadian and would know more about it than you.  You don't have to be a wise guy with every post I make.

Have you actually watched the video?

A follow-up question: how did you find the video?
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« Reply #1089 on: April 12, 2021, 03:02:51 pm »

I directed my question to Robert who posted it and is a Canadian and would know more about it than you.  You don't have to be a wise guy with every post I make.

Oh wait. I was assuming that your original post of the video was a joke, even though you didn't use an emoji. That's why my smart alecky answer. Did I misjudge the situation? Were you being serious? Do you think there are civil service health police panels who interview patients before we get treatment?
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1090 on: April 12, 2021, 04:05:27 pm »

Robert, we live in a world where reality is stranger than satire, so the two can easily be confused.

Is it a satire or reality that Canada has erected a ten-feet fence around a church, to prevent people from going in? If you said it here, should we have taken you seriously? See where I am going with this? Yes, we can easily believe that you have health panels forcing people to "fall in line," as you said, by prosecuting high-profile individuals. Especially when YOU have no reputation of being funny or satirical.

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1091 on: April 12, 2021, 04:07:41 pm »

... You don't have to be a wise guy with every post I make. 

Amen to that!

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« Reply #1092 on: April 12, 2021, 04:09:25 pm »

Oh wait. I was assuming that your original post of the video was a joke, even though you didn't use an emoji. That's why my smart alecky answer. Did I misjudge the situation? Were you being serious? Do you think there are civil service health police panels who interview patients before we get treatment?
Yes.  :-[

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1093 on: April 12, 2021, 04:36:46 pm »

This thread has become an interesting research project in itself. It's testing the impulse control of individuals with regard to their ability to discuss the thread topic without giving into the impulse to convert the thread into a platform for their views on whatever other subject matter is causing them an itch they feel an impulse to scratch.

There's no scientific rigor to it, but it's interesting as an observational study nonetheless.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1094 on: April 12, 2021, 04:37:27 pm »

Yes.  :-[

You're right. All the propaganda you've heard from American health care insurance companies is true. Even the stuff they haven't thought to make up yet is true. Sorry fellow Canucks, but he beat it out of me.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1095 on: April 12, 2021, 06:33:07 pm »

This thread has become an interesting research project in itself. It's testing the impulse control of individuals with regard to their ability to discuss the thread topic without giving into the impulse to convert the thread into a platform for their views on whatever other subject matter is causing them an itch they feel an impulse to scratch.

There's no scientific rigor to it, but it's interesting as an observational study nonetheless.
What are your observations and conclusions?

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« Reply #1096 on: April 12, 2021, 06:35:44 pm »

You're right. All the propaganda you've heard from American health care insurance companies is true. Even the stuff they haven't thought to make up yet is true. Sorry fellow Canucks, but he beat it out of me.
Well, when I was a kid, I looked at the RCMP as heroes, always getting the bad guy, and rescuing the damsel.  It would have been disappointing to me to learn they were locking up people for not taken taking their vitamins. Eh.

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« Reply #1097 on: April 12, 2021, 06:46:43 pm »

What are your observations and conclusions?

That impulse control varies greatly among individuals engaged in this thread and that for some it is relatively weak, though all are susceptible to momentary lapse when sufficiently provoked. It's a matter of degree in both provocation and individual ability in impulse control. Some require no provocation whatever; have no impulse control; and simply change the subject to suit their own whims, purpose, or desire.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #1098 on: April 12, 2021, 09:30:06 pm »

Well, when I was a kid, I looked at the RCMP as heroes, always getting the bad guy, and rescuing the damsel.  It would have been disappointing to me to learn they were locking up people for not taken taking their vitamins. Eh.

The thing is I still don't know if you've been kidding or not. Do you believe that Canadians are being forcibly vaccinated?
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« Reply #1099 on: April 12, 2021, 09:31:13 pm »

...Yes, we can easily believe that you have health panels forcing people to "fall in line," as you said, by prosecuting high-profile individuals. Especially when YOU have no reputation of being funny or satirical.

I am certain that some people will believe anything.
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