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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #17200 on: August 19, 2025, 02:15:03 am »

Robert I see you watch the news, hos the weather where U live?
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« Reply #17201 on: August 19, 2025, 07:08:25 am »

sounds similar to "peace in our time".  :o >:(
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« Reply #17202 on: August 19, 2025, 10:23:17 am »

Robert I see you watch the news, hos the weather where U live?

Weather?  George Carlin said it best, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mk9TdyElh8.
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« Reply #17203 on: August 19, 2025, 10:25:32 am »

I saw a headline somewhere, maybe on a youtube video, of Trump bragging about all the trillions of dollars he's collecting from tariffs. I'd be surprised if it amounted to that much in such a short time, but did you ever think you'd hear a Republican bragging about increasing taxes?
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« Reply #17204 on: August 19, 2025, 12:56:10 pm »

I saw a headline somewhere, maybe on a youtube video, of Trump bragging about all the trillions of dollars he's collecting from tariffs. I'd be surprised if it amounted to that much in such a short time, but did you ever think you'd hear a Republican bragging about increasing taxes?


He’s obviously going to take it to the Moon. Once there, up will be pulled the ladder.

Told you he was smarter than the average bear.

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« Reply #17205 on: August 20, 2025, 07:08:43 am »

Noem wants to paint the wall black, https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/noem-us-border-wall-black-paint-1.7613296.

What about at night?
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« Reply #17206 on: August 20, 2025, 10:06:00 am »

Noem wants to paint the wall black, https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/noem-us-border-wall-black-paint-1.7613296.

What about at night?


I suppose he was inspired by the Strolling Bones.

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« Reply #17207 on: August 20, 2025, 03:18:14 pm »


I suppose he was inspired by the Strolling Bones.

Is that Cockney rhyming slang?
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #17208 on: August 20, 2025, 04:48:18 pm »

Lost me on that too. Incidentally, there used to be a local band here called the Strolling Scones.
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« Reply #17209 on: August 20, 2025, 05:13:28 pm »

Is that Cockney rhyming slang?

Rolling Stones: Paint it Black. ;-)

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« Reply #17210 on: August 21, 2025, 06:50:39 am »

Rolling Stones: Paint it Black. ;-)

I had gotten that, but I just wondered about the name. Strolling Bones is not a bad description of them these days, although they are holding up well all things considered. Paint it Black remains among my favourite Stones tunes.

A friend wondered if a black painted wall might interfere with infra-red sensors or other surveillance electronics. I'm sure there are experts in the field studying this.
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« Reply #17211 on: August 21, 2025, 07:41:33 am »

It's about the emission of both relative to each other and does  the sensing device have the ability to discern the relative differences - just the same as it is for any other light recording. Hot bodies will always catch the eye !
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« Reply #17212 on: August 21, 2025, 05:30:28 pm »

….Hot bodies will always catch the eye !

I can second that emotion!

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« Reply #17213 on: August 22, 2025, 09:14:00 am »

Here's an opinion piece from politico.com about what's happening in D.C. and the relative lack protests there, https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/08/21/donald-trump-washington-dc-police-protests-00516629. I'm not sure what to make of this insanity. Some of the comments from the ICE officers are interesting. I guess some of them don't just view themselves as neutral enforcers of laws but rather foot soldiers in some kind of manufactured culture war. That's what you want in a police force, partisanship. Let's learn that lesson again then. There are going to be people killed soon, it's almost inevitable.

They are normalizing martial law in the land of the free. Can't be too good for tourism, but authoritarians want people to stay home scared, suits them fine. If Trump gets his way and propagandizes the exhibits at the Smithsonian, the place won't be worth visiting anyway. I'm waiting for an exhibition of "degenerate" art. 
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« Reply #17214 on: August 22, 2025, 10:01:31 am »

The trouble with taking a firm stand on either the side of migrants or of the normally unwilling hosts, is that apart from labelling one racist or idiot, the other helpless victim of foreign circumstance, is that it ignores the point that lands of milk and honey are largely illusory.

If you consider what happened in the southern Italian islands and in Greek islands too, what’s going down in Spain’s Canary Islands and also the Balearics, you have to be wilfully blind not to see that the situation is unsustainable. All of the places mentioned already have large populations of indigenous unemployed, people who can’t afford to leave home and have to marry and live into the foreseeable future with one set of parents or the other, causing much natural stress within families. Those islands share the misfortune  of being relatively close to the African continent, and as a consequence, become first stop for the small migrant boats, all overloaded with folks seeking a new life, either of honest labour or of easier pickings in crime.

Palma, the capital of Mallorca (Balearic Islands) publishes daily reports of street crime and gang intimidation of shop-owners and pedestrians, theft from tourists forced to leave their belongings beside their beach towel and sunshades as they go for their dip. It seems to  me that, from all of the different nationalities of illegals here, it turns out be the Algerians and Roma gypsies who win the most frequent offender records. (Well, Palma doesn‘t publish this information, it’s the local newspapers.)

The locals, in common with what happens in many British rural areas, have the problem of unreachable real estate prices, unreachable for locals because of the relatively wealthy foreigners buying into the market. In my own case, I could no more afford, today, the place that I bought outright forty-four years ago, than could the average Mallorcan then or now. It’s not difficult to understand how resentment can corrupt relationships between nations; I feel blessed never - yet - to have faced any such thing, perhaps because I do my best to integrate and don’t go through daily life expecting the entire world to be able to speak English.

Is it really any wonder the Mallorcans want shot of the lot of ‘em, or even of many legally present immigrants? They have my sympathy and understanding.
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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #17215 on: August 23, 2025, 06:08:31 pm »

The trouble with taking a firm stand on either the side of migrants or of the normally unwilling hosts, is that apart from labelling one racist or idiot, the other helpless victim of foreign circumstance, is that it ignores the point that lands of milk and honey are largely illusory.
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Maybe that's what Trump is aiming for. Make the USA a terrible place to live, that way no migrants will want to move there. As you say, he may be more clever than he has so far demonstrated.

Now that the deadlines have passed and tariffs have actually been implemented, as opposed to just being talked about, reports of American financial hardship are hitting the news. My wife is a painter and follows some online art channels and several of them are reporting major hits on their ability to make a living. Either they are offshore and can no longer ship profitably to the US or they're American and have been hit with higher prices for supplies. At least one British online photo vlogger is reporting hits to his income stream. I'm not sure what benefit those tariffs are meant to produce. Well, let's be honest, no one does. Until now it has mostly been hot air.

Bizarrely, I saw a clip of someone being interviewed, someone who seemed to be all there, who expressed surprise that it was not China that was paying the tariffs. Not sure how you can go this long and not understand that, but maybe if you never read past the headlines, or you only listen to Trumpistan, you genuinely don't know what tariffs are, i.e., a tax on Americans. Oh well, they voted him into office, they only have themselves to blame. It's all becoming a bit boring, I find. Sad too, the guy is losing his marbles in real time.

I don't know if you've been following Gavin Newson's spoofs of Trump tweets. They are very funny, very entertaining. If it all goes pear-shaped, he may have a career in show biz. He may be onto something though. Logical argument has not shifted the discussion one iota, so maybe dirt slinging online is the way to go. Maybe that's how people think now. It's all one big drunken pub we're living in. I'm waiting for the first ICE street shooting, just a matter of time. Maybe the National Guard can entertain us with a repeat of Kent state, maybe take out a bystander again.

I see that Ghislaine Maxwell said that Trump never did anything inappropriate at the parties. I hate to seem too cynical, but what exactly would be deemed inappropriate at those parties?
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« Reply #17216 on: August 24, 2025, 03:52:35 am »

I don't know if you've been following Gavin Newson's spoofs of Trump tweets. They are very funny, very entertaining.
IF you understand they're parody. I've seen loads a maga people fail to see that and just get annoyed.
I'm not sure it's as smart a move as some think.
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« Reply #17217 on: August 24, 2025, 06:28:25 am »

IF you understand they're parody. I've seen loads a maga people fail to see that and just get annoyed.
I'm not sure it's as smart a move as some think.

Someone might have to explain the joke to them.  :)
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« Reply #17218 on: August 25, 2025, 10:53:52 am »

Someone might have to explain the joke to them.  :)

The people who don't get it are never going to come around anyway. I just love seeing them say stuff like "This is just weird." or "Doesn't he know how childish and bad this looks?". Whoosh. Keep 'em coming.
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« Reply #17219 on: August 27, 2025, 01:27:12 pm »

Mike Johnson thinks that Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize for sending the National Guard to DC. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5469047-trump-nobel-peace-prize-mike-johnson/ The case he makes is that no murders have been committed in DC (or reported?) since they showed up. The first question is who collected these stats. Besides that, if everyone in DC is staying home because they're worried about venturing outside with military-style checkpoints placed around town, it's hard to determine just how effective a strategy that is going to be in the long term. I haven't heard how all the troops are affecting tourism either.

The thing is, even if all he says about DC crime reduction is actually true, would that be enough evidence to support a claim for a Nobel Peace Prize? Seems a but narcissistic to think that an international body of some reknown should give a rat's ass about DC crime rates. I know that Americans have a tendency to think that they are at the centre of everything, but geez Mike, dial it back a bit.

Since Mike claims to get all his ideas from the bible, I'd like to know which verses are relevant here.

Then there are all those stats about how crime is worse in many red states where Trump is NOT threatening to send troops. I assume his crew is working hard to revise those stats.

The Governors of Illinois and California have told Trump to keep soldiers out of their states. If they made a token meme coin purchase, it might go a long way towards mollifying Trump, at least for a week or so.  Btw, where are all the "states rights" guys? You'd think they'd ave something to say on this troop invasion subject.

There was a report online that Trump was lobbying Indiana to change their voting districts as per the Texan example. Shouldn't that bother people more. He is essentially trying to make elections as irrelevant as they were in the former Soviet Union, or the current Russia for that matter. If a district's electoral outcome is not in question, what reason does any candidate from that district have to actually represent his constituents? Wasn't that the main idea behind representative democracy? Why would anyone bother voting? The main problem with all of this is that politicians have a say in voting district design. That is just hare-brain stupid. But it's entrenched now, not easy to see a way out of this. It would require political courage to do the right thing, so good luck with that.
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