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Jeremy Roussak

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« on: July 11, 2009, 05:58:08 am »

Comments etc welcome, indeed hoped for.

[attachment=15300:flow.jpg]

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 07:36:08 am »

Jeremy,

This looks too bright to me, the water is very white...not such a bad thing if the rocks weren't so washed out as well...and possibly a bit over sharpened (I've been guilty of that myself a bit lately). Just my humble opinion anyway.

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 09:50:25 am »

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Jeremy,

This looks too bright to me, the water is very white...not such a bad thing if the rocks weren't so washed out as well...and possibly a bit over sharpened (I've been guilty of that myself a bit lately). Just my humble opinion anyway.

Cheers
Brian
Jeremy,

Here's my quick variant.

[attachment=15304:flow2.jpg]

I did three things:

1, I cropped in a little from the left and up from the bottom to get rid of two rocks in the lower left that I found distracting. This lets the flow at the bottom come freely out of the picture toward the viewer (which I like; YMMV.)

2, I cloned out (badly) the bright little stone near the lower right.

And 3, I used the shadow/highlight tool (in CS3) to recapture some detail in the highlights (settings I used were: amount=30, tonal width=20, radius=20.)

I think this last step improves on the washed-out look Brian spoke of. It is an image worth playing with.

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 02:03:46 pm »

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Jeremy,

Here's my quick variant.

[attachment=15304:flow2.jpg]

I did three things:

1, I cropped in a little from the left and up from the bottom to get rid of two rocks in the lower left that I found distracting. This lets the flow at the bottom come freely out of the picture toward the viewer (which I like; YMMV.)

2, I cloned out (badly) the bright little stone near the lower right.

And 3, I used the shadow/highlight tool (in CS3) to recapture some detail in the highlights (settings I used were: amount=30, tonal width=20, radius=20.)

I think this last step improves on the washed-out look Brian spoke of. It is an image worth playing with.

Thank you both: I think you're right about the whiteness and sharpening. I'd not thought of removing the bright stone, but I agree it's a better shot without it. I have to say that I prefer having the rocks at the lower left.

This is what I have, after a bit more fiddling:

[attachment=15316:flow.jpg]

I don't know whether it's any better than your version, Eric: the shadows are a bit darker.

I'm annoyed with myself, because this is what I was trying to capture:

[attachment=15317:flow_no_crop.jpg]

I liked the pattern the water made as it flowed out of the end of the fall, but I'd forgotten that small plants move around a lot in the breeze. A 4-second exposure meant that it became rather fuzzy, so I felt it needed to be cropped out, which lost the effect. Ah well. Live and learn.

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 04:18:08 pm »

I definitely like your original composition: the water at the bottom looks like an explosion- really eye catching.  I'd even crop the original from the top just a bit.  If you can't  reshoot the image to remove that bottom right plant, then you might want to try cloning it out (I can already see Russ shaking his head in disgust and leaving the room   - just kidding, Russ ).  I'd really like to see a "fixed" version, nonetheless, incorporating cloning with your dodging/burning.  Great work!

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 05:26:35 am »

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I definitely like your original composition: the water at the bottom looks like an explosion- really eye catching.  I'd even crop the original from the top just a bit.  If you can't  reshoot the image to remove that bottom right plant, then you might want to try cloning it out (I can already see Russ shaking his head in disgust and leaving the room   - just kidding, Russ ).  I'd really like to see a "fixed" version, nonetheless, incorporating cloning with your dodging/burning.  Great work!

John
Thanks, John. I took the shot in Switzerland and there's no realistic prospect of redoing it. I'll have a bash at cloning out the plant (since it was a mistake, I think I can do it without upsetting Russ too much), but I suspect it's going to be beyond my rather rudimentary Photoshop skills.

I presume the clone/stamp tool is the way to go. Any tips would be much appreciated!

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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 12:41:22 pm »

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I definitely like your original composition: the water at the bottom looks like an explosion- really eye catching.  I'd even crop the original from the top just a bit.  If you can't  reshoot the image to remove that bottom right plant, then you might want to try cloning it out (I can already see Russ shaking his head in disgust and leaving the room   - just kidding, Russ ).  I'd really like to see a "fixed" version, nonetheless, incorporating cloning with your dodging/burning.  Great work!
Well, here's my attempt. As I suspected, my skills with PS weren't really up to the job and the bottom right looks more like a child's attempt at crayoning than an explosion of water. I used the clone stamp, healing brush and patch tools. What would anyone else use (apart from ability with PS, which I'm lacking)?

[attachment=15333:edited_flow.jpg]

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 01:24:20 pm »

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Well, here's my attempt. As I suspected, my skills with PS weren't really up to the job and the bottom right looks more like a child's attempt at crayoning than an explosion of water. I used the clone stamp, healing brush and patch tools. What would anyone else use (apart from ability with PS, which I'm lacking)?

[attachment=15333:edited_flow.jpg]

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I think this version looks great! Only you (and a very few of the LL pixel peepers) might be aware that you did anything PS-ish to it. I like it!


Eric
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