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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2008, 05:58:41 pm »

Now that makes more sense!
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 06:06:04 pm »

I asked to see it, but perhaps the 150mm F4 AFD Tele-Xenar isn't available, either.

I forgot to ask if the RGB white balance sensor has been enabled, yet.
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 06:59:25 pm »

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I asked to see it, but perhaps the 150mm F4 AFD Tele-Xenar isn't available, either.

I forgot to ask if the RGB white balance sensor has been enabled, yet.
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90º is not available yet. first evaluation units are expected this month.

150mm f4 AF-D Tele-Xenar is not available yet (no confirmed date)

RGB sensor is not enabled yet (no date)

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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 07:06:44 pm »

RGB sensor is not enabled yet (no date)(Leaf Afi)

However it is with the Sinar Hy6

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2008, 07:23:27 pm »

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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe you are, as both cameras use the same firmware and the only mechanical difference is the battery and its contacts.

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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2008, 02:37:07 am »

Hi Yair,
I think we have to wait till Thierry checks in.

Thierry if you're out there,any comment on this?

Cheers,
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2008, 03:53:10 am »

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Hi Yair,
I think we have to wait till Thierry checks in.

Thierry if you're out there,any comment on this?

Cheers,
Willem.
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No problem, although our information comes from the same place...mine is true to last Thursday when I was at F&H.

Yair
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2008, 05:36:32 am »

The RGB sensor is enabled in the Hy6 camera itself. What is not, is the interpretation of these RGB values delivered by the camera sensor into the digital back and applied to the files/images: this needs a firmware modification/update.

I do not have any ETA for this implementation.

Best regards,
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RGB sensor is not enabled yet (no date)(Leaf Afi)

However it is with the Sinar Hy6

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2008, 05:40:22 am »

I can add/confirm here from today's information: first units for evaluation are expected within the next days.

Thierry

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90º is not available yet. first evaluation units are expected this month.

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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2008, 11:32:39 am »

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is the 50mm or 180mm AFD lens available now?

Thanks.
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They are. I have used both of them, the 50 is quite compact, compare to the Zeiss 45/2.8 lens for 645 or HC 50 for Hasselblad which I also use, the 50mm from Schneider is a lot lighter.  The lens hood of 50 and 180 is the same so it is of great convenience when travel.  The 180/2.8 lens is wonderfully built, focus fast, sharp, render really nice pictures.  Both lenses balance very well on Hy6, all focus very fast. I thought both have been out long while ago.
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2008, 11:51:25 am »

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The lens hood of 50 and 180 is the same so it is of great convenience when travel.
The 50mm AF-D and 180mm AF-D both have 95mm filter thread size.  Their outer bayonet seems to be the same, but the hoods for each are different:
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I thought both have been out long while ago.
The latest AF-D versions (without aperture ring) are now just becoming available.
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2008, 12:27:05 pm »

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They are. I have used both of them, the 50 is quite compact, compare to the Zeiss 45/2.8 lens for 645 or HC 50 for Hasselblad which I also use, the 50mm from Schneider is a lot lighter.  The lens hood of 50 and 180 is the same so it is of great convenience when travel.  The 180/2.8 lens is wonderfully built, focus fast, sharp, render really nice pictures.  Both lenses balance very well on Hy6, all focus very fast. I thought both have been out long while ago.
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Add to that, I would also like to report that the Hy6+e75 is a very effective combination, from my ow experience using it in studio and in location. I have no problem with the screen even under bright sunlight, on beach of Thailand in April, although a lager screen is certainly welcome. And after many years using a angle finder, I am also surprised that the waist level is not as difficult as I anticipate when shooting under direct sunlight.
The camera layout is very easy to work with, AF is fast and accurate, tethered shooting is of moderate speed and I hope the Xposure will speed it further.  However when shooting to CF card, the camera is very responsive, easily as fast as any other back I have used.
The overall balance of the camera is wonderful, easy to handle, shoot, check on the histogram, directing the models, back on shooting.  The overall control of the Hy6 is fast, changing the setting is as fast as any smaller DSLR if not faster. The rotatable handle is really helpful since many times I was shooting at a difficult angles that will be very difficult to shoot otherwise.
The screen is one of the most surprising feature I found on Hy6/e75 - thanks for the rotation feature of the back.  When shooting a 645 format, the viewfinder is restricted to a pre-decided view that sometimes I can miss some important alternative composition; with both orientation of the view both visible on the screen can actually allow me to quickly go for the optimized composition.
I also switched the back orientation often outdoor, on beach or at poolside, found that not to be a problem, once you are getting to it, it is just a matter of about 2 seconds.
Overall, comparing my experience with H3D39 and P45+ on Contax, the Hy6+e75 is a very competitive system and great image quality.
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2008, 12:32:32 pm »

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oh I forgot the biggest issue about leaf. the HOT wind, yes, the HOT wind. I always use the wl finder, and I always put my head up the camera when I work, thus the hot wind from the DB is blowing straightly to my face. Personally I really cant stand that, I am easy to sweat, with leaf back I will have to wipe my face every few minutes in summer...I cant imagine that...
Hopefully, not like this guy....
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2008, 01:37:23 pm »

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Add to that, I would also like to report that the Hy6+e75 is a very effective combination, from my ow experience using it in studio and in location. IOverall, comparing my experience with H3D39 and P45+ on Contax, the Hy6+e75 is a very competitive system and great image quality.
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Just close to H3D and P45+ C645 or better???
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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2008, 09:56:09 pm »

hahaha

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Hopefully, not like this guy....

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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2008, 05:30:07 am »

Both Schneider 50mm AFD and 180mm AFD are available.

Thierry

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is the 50mm or 180mm AFD lens available now?

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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2008, 06:01:31 am »

FYI:

The Sinar Hy6 45° prism finder is available

- its colour is black anthracite, same as the camera body.

- the rotation/revolution of the Sinarback IS POSSIBLE with this 45° finder, when using the Hy6 revolving adapter, in the contrary to what as been claimed.

Best regards,
Thierry
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2008, 07:19:36 am »

Excellent news, Thierry.
Hopefully, Sinarbacks are black anthracite color as well.

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The Sinar Hy6 45° prism finder is available

- its colour is black anthracite, same as the camera body.

- the rotation/revolution of the Sinarback IS POSSIBLE with this 45° finder, when using the Hy6 revolving adapter, in the contrary to what as been claimed.

Best regards,
Thierry
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« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2008, 08:26:18 am »

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- the rotation/revolution of the Sinarback IS POSSIBLE with this 45° finder, when using the Hy6 revolving adapter, in the contrary to what as been claimed.

Great!
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« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2008, 11:54:12 am »

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FYI:
- the rotation/revolution of the Sinarback IS POSSIBLE with this 45° finder, when using the Hy6 revolving adapter, in the contrary to what as been claimed.
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Be better news if that also came with LC-11
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