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shewhorn

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« on: December 21, 2007, 10:48:34 pm »

Hi, Canon's website says the IPF 6100 supports XP x64 however, there's no driver for it on the CD. There also isn't a driver for it on the US website. I found some older stuff on the EU site (3.9 seems to be current, 3.6 is on the eu site). It's kind of a pain downloading all the individual components. Does anyone know of a single file I can download for x64 that contains all the files I need and if so... where the heck is it?

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 12:18:36 am »

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Hi, Canon's website says the IPF 6100 supports XP x64 however, there's no driver for it on the CD. There also isn't a driver for it on the US website. I found some older stuff on the EU site (3.9 seems to be current, 3.6 is on the eu site). It's kind of a pain downloading all the individual components. Does anyone know of a single file I can download for x64 that contains all the files I need and if so... where the heck is it?

Cheers, Joe
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No, but if you find it easier you can probably get some pretty recent stuff off Scott Martin's FTP site.  Details here:

[a href=\"http://canonipf.wikispaces.com/Latest+Drivers%2C+Plugin%2C+Firmware+and+Utilities]http://canonipf.wikispaces.com/Latest+Driv...e+and+Utilities[/url]

Personally, I haven't found it to be much of a problem getting stuff off the Canon Europe web site.  Then again, I don't run XP X64.

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2007, 12:37:59 am »

Thanks John! It's not difficult to get the stuff, it's just irritating. They seem to have the same versions of different software mish mashed between one another, it's kind of hard to keep track of everything the way it's presented. Canon could really stand to cleap up all of their websites. When you select Windows XP x64 on the US site for example, it would be nice if it filtered out the OSX, OS8/9, Win 2k, Win XP and Vista drivers and only displayed Windows 2003 server/Windows XP x64 drivers. That would make it MUCH easier. Looks like they kinda had that idea but nobody really tested the feature when they implemented it on their website.

OK... back to installing. If this fails the backup plan is to use the Mac.

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 02:46:00 am »

Wow,

I was hoping that Canon's lack of SQA was just limited to their camera department but apparently they have the same quality standards (or lack there of) for their printers. I've been trying to get the current software installed on my PC running XP x64 and my Mac running OSX 10.4. The US site is TERRIBLE, absolutely terrible. You know, it's not rocket science to get a website to display current drivers for a selected operating system but Canon obviously doesn't care about that. Select OSX or XP x64... I don't think that pull down menu really does anything. Canon just leaves ALL OS support packages up there regardless what you select. Whomever is responsible for coding and maintaining this site should be ashamed of themselves but then again, they obviously don't take a lot of pride in the work that they do. Truly atrocious.

Anyhow, the printer came with firmware v1.01 and I wanted to update it to 1.31 as it has several worthwhile improvements. Well, if you have a Windows XP x64 box your SOL. No compatible firmware updater on the US or the European site. They also have no plug-in for Photoshop. OK, I give up. I install the drivers on my Mac with the provided CD and I download the firmware updater. Wait, where's the printer? Nowhere to be found. I have to manually add the printer. You'd think they'd do that step for you (or at least offer a dialog as part of the setup to get it done) but no. OK, so I do that. Great, now I can install the update. Nope, the printer is dumb as dirt and nobody had the foresight to wake the printer from sleep. As an ex-software engineer I can tell you that this also is not rocket science. OK, so I press the "online" button to wake it up. Alright, we're getting somewhere. I can now see the printer. OK... update the firmware. NOPE. "Printer is offline". Apparently the only way to get it online is to stick a piece of paper in it? Yep. I had to stick a piece of paper in the thing before it would allow me to update the firmware. This is absolutely outrageous.

OK, I'm good, I've update the firmware. Now I want to install the most recent versions of stuff on the Mac. I start downloading and updating. I got to install the Photoshop and DPP plug-in. "Image ProGraf driver 3.91 or later must be installed". WHAT? OK, I go look for that version. It doesn't exist on the US site which is where I downloaded the plug-in installer from. You'd think that they'd check the dependencies for other versions and make sure that the proper software to support something else is available online but... nope.

Needless to say I'm more than a bit frustrated. Again, I was hoping that Canon's atrocious history of quality assurance with their cameras was isolated to the camera R&D group but apparently low standards are a corporate philosophy with them. Such a shame. For the most part this is a complaint about Canon's USA webmaster. If this person did a better job some of these gripes could be taken care of. Additionally Canon's engineering department could eliminate this problem by creating a small application that check the version of the currently installed components and automatically downloading only what needs to be updated. Even better they could have an update manager that periodically checks in with HQ and prompts the user when an update is available.

I can figure all this stuff out, find what I need from Europe (unfortunately the European site is slower than a stoned snail on valium in a pool of cold molasses), etc. but I really shouldn't have to. I feel really bad for the folks at Canon who REALLY DO care. I've been in such a position before and it's a tough gig because your hands are essentially tied.

Cheers, Joe
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 03:52:51 am »

Well... finally got it printing. Gorgeous output of course. First print didn't match the monitor... knew it had to be something and found the menu to disable Canon's color management (I'm manually setting it up on PS). Time to start learning the ins and outs of this thing. Hopefully they won't be nearly as irritating as installing the software. I trust it will be smoother sailing from here on in.

One quick question. When I do a manual paper feed when it first sucks the paper in it makes a loud noise that sounds almost like gears griding. Is this normal? It only happens after you select your paper type and hit OK, everything is fine after that.

Cheers, Joe
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2007, 10:46:03 am »

Hard to disagree with you on any of the problems you have pointed out with the Canon USA web site.  The inability to update firmware from X64 platform is a known problem listed on this Wiki page:

http://canonipf.wikispaces.com/Considerati...ng+This+Printer

(as if that helps you out in any way   )

Must be really frustrating for the guys at Canon who want the iPF printers to succeed.  

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 11:40:25 am »

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Hard to disagree with you on any of the problems you have pointed out with the Canon USA web site.  The inability to update firmware from X64 platform is a known problem listed on this Wiki page:

http://canonipf.wikispaces.com/Considerati...ng+This+Printer

(as if that helps you out in any way   )

Must be really frustrating for the guys at Canon who want the iPF printers to succeed. 

--John
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Well I think the lesson learned here is not to read the Canon manual. I'll just read the wiki (glad it's there) and use the European site. That install process almost made me go insane. For a few seconds there I almost considered installing Vista as it seems to have better support. Bah.... guess I'll just use the Mac for the 16 bit printing when I need to do that.

Cheers, Joe
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