DxO filmpack

[BernardLanguillier]

Dear all,

I have just noticed that DxO had released DxO v4.1 together with a new optional package called film pack that automates the creation of a film look.

I haven't found the time to try yet, but was wondering if anybody else had?

thanks,

Cheers,
Bernard

[francois]

Dear all,

I have just noticed that DxO had released DxO v4.1 together with a new optional package called film pack that automates the creation of a film look.

I haven't found the time to try yet, but was wondering if anybody else had?

thanks,

Cheers,
Bernard
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Bernard,
I've not tried it but you might find some interesting comments [a href=\"http://www.macandphoto.com/2006/12/dxo_enfin_la_ma.html]here[/url] (in French).

[BernardLanguillier]

Thanks a lot Francois, this sounds very good! I'll give it a try tonight.

If only it could support the Mamiya ZD...

Cheers,
Bernard

[denopa]

I actually have tried, and it's very interesting, especially the B&W and the grain features... you can see a couple of examples on
this site


They probably need to add a filter feature to make it truly usefull though... most people would have used these films with a filter, and certainly today when doing B&W conversion that's what they are effectively doing (see Lightroom's technique).

[Arizona]

I have tried it one time only but it is very interesting. I do think the filter option should be added for the B&W work. You can add grain and a color film, then process it to B&W in PS with a filtering software if need be but it would be best to have it right in Filmpack. I chose one of the Ilford films for a pleasing tonal response and then added the Tmax 3200 grain if I recall for this one;



I want to work with it more now.

[BernardLanguillier]

2 quick D2x samples converted by DxO 4.1 filmpack in mode sensia:



Regards,
Bernard

[Arizona]

Bernard, are you talking about the tilt function as in the Geometry Engine?

Nice use of the color in those shots. I am going to play around with the different films some more. They give you so many to use.

[BernardLanguillier]

Bernard, are you talking about the tilt function as in the Geometry Engine?

Nice use of the color in those shots. I am going to play around with the different films some more. They give you so many to use.
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Hello Arizona,

Sorry, yes I was talking about the tilt function.

I only spent one hour playing with films, but I liked what I saw.  The result pretty much matched what I was expecting to see based on my film experience with Velvia, Provia and Sensia.

It is pointless to try to stick to a film look at any price, but I really like the way the Sensia profile applies to the D2x file. It is the closest thing to the Nikon capture color and the contrast is not too high but still high enough to make the images pop. It would be interesting to see how well DxO is able to produce the same color output for different camera types.

I am still a bit concerned about the ability of DxO to avoid posterization when applying the Velvia look on images with smooth color gradations, but haven't seen any problem so far.

I feel for the first time that DxO could be used to produce excellent conversions automatically to a batch of images with results as good as what I would have been able to achieve by spending time corrections images one by one in RSP.

Even if manual tweaking could still produce better results, it is IMHO totally unmatched for those people shooting large amount of images and who need to show quickly to customers good conversions without wasting time working on the images.

If only it could support the Mamiya ZD as well.  

The workflow was improved, but I still need to spend time understanding the full set of features. It probably still is behind RSP/Lightroom in terms of large size image preview. For the rest it appears to be very close.

Anyway, life is getting really exciting in terms of raw conversion with Raw Developper, Silkyix, Lightroom and now DxO v4.1.

I feel that it is now time to do a real comparison of these softwares.

Cheers,
Bernard

[Pantoned]

If only it could support the Mamiya ZD as well. 
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Exactly!!!, Not only ZD, why haven't they targeted the pro market of digital backs? Less clients for sure but they could charge more money too. BTW the other day found this other web while surfing and it claims to support Phase and Leaf backs, anybody tried it?

[a href=\"http://www.rawfilmstyles.com/]http://www.rawfilmstyles.com/[/url]


Arnau.

[Hermie]

> It is pointless to try to stick to a film look at any price, but I really like the way the Sensia profile applies to the D2x file. It is the closest thing to the Nikon capture color and the contrast is not too high but still high enough to make the images pop. It would be interesting to see how well DxO is able to produce the same color output for different camera types.



Bernard,

I just installed upgrade & filmpack, but I can't find Sensia profile.
I'm using the standard version of DxO. Is the content of the filmpack version related?

[BernardLanguillier]

I just installed upgrade & filmpack, but I can't find Sensia profile.
I'm using the standard version of DxO. Is the content of the filmpack version related?
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Oops, my mistake, I meant Astia...

Sorry about that.

Cheers,
Bernard

[marcmccalmont]

I tried to download the film pack and it downloaded the entire V4.1. I then inputed the activation code and restarted my computer. I dont see access to the film pack anywhere, thought they might be under the presets listed by film type?
Thanks
Marc

[David White]

I tried to download the film pack and it downloaded the entire V4.1. I then inputed the activation code and restarted my computer. I dont see access to the film pack anywhere, thought they might be under the presets listed by film type?
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In the Enhance module under Dxo Color/Color Rendition Profiles, select one of the film types and then in the box under that you can select the film.  Further on down you can select Add film grain and it opens up another selection box with a variety of different films.

[marcmccalmont]

In the Enhance module under Dxo Color/Color Rendition Profiles, select one of the film types and then in the box under that you can select the film.  Further on down you can select Add film grain and it opens up another selection box with a variety of different films.
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Thanks
Marc

[marcmccalmont]

I don't have much of a backround in film (my dad always had a darkroom but I was the one with the tongs and print in the developer or short stop!)
Would you list your favorite films, use (B&W, color, portrait, landscape etc.) and why you like it so I have a better starting point using the film pack.
Thanks
Marc

[russell a]

This interest in going backwards to emulate the limitations of the past seems very quaint to me.  My impression of much of the retro inclinations in photography - pinhole digital, digital emulations of the look of Polaroids, ditto for pseudo-gum bichromics, grain, etc -is that it is often employed to lend some sort of antique cachet to quite ordinary photographs.

[Arizona]

This interest in going backwards to emulate the limitations of the past seems very quaint to me.  My impression of much of the retro inclinations in photography - pinhole digital, digital emulations of the look of Polaroids, ditto for pseudo-gum bichromics, grain, etc -is that it is often employed to lend some sort of antique cachet to quite ordinary photographs.
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I take it this is your impression of being condescending. LOL I thought you would have used quite quaint instead of very quaint.

Anyway, it was free with our DXO and I reckon we have had a quaint old time just trying out the stuff and talking about it some. We were not trying to frustrate you further.  

[alainbriot]

DxO4.1 is a much improved upgrade.  The interface is completely new when compared to 3.0 versions and much more pleasant to use.  It is faster than 3.0 but still not designed for fast processing or for batching hundreds of files.  For that another converter (such as C1, lightroom, etc.) is better suited to the task.  But when you want control over lens correction, or use the new color engine or the film pack, Dx) 4.1 is something to look into.  I will have a review soon.  I am using it as part of my Raw Converters "arsenal".

[marcmccalmont]

This interest in going backwards to emulate the limitations of the past seems very quaint to me.  My impression of much of the retro inclinations in photography - pinhole digital, digital emulations of the look of Polaroids, ditto for pseudo-gum bichromics, grain, etc -is that it is often employed to lend some sort of antique cachet to quite ordinary photographs.
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I'm just guessing but perhaps there was 100 years of trying to get a pleasing/attractive output and perhaps one could learn a lot by looking at what worked in the past to improve on the future?
Marc

[BernardLanguillier]

This interest in going backwards to emulate the limitations of the past seems very quaint to me.  My impression of much of the retro inclinations in photography - pinhole digital, digital emulations of the look of Polaroids, ditto for pseudo-gum bichromics, grain, etc -is that it is often employed to lend some sort of antique cachet to quite ordinary photographs.
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- Nothing forces you to use them if you don't like them,
- Getting a consistent look accross images taken with different cameras is a challenging task, and this tool can IMHO really help achieving this,
- I see no reason to reject a method to get nice colors just because it originates from a desire to simulate a film look. Forget about the fact that it is called film pack, just call it "tastes" like Silkypix does and it will become more acceptable all of a sudden. :-)

Cheers,
Bernard