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Michael Erlewine

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Are B&W Photos Affected by APO Lenses?
« on: March 30, 2015, 03:11:58 am »

I know that APO (apochromatic lenses) are designed for color and that non-APO lenses can have all kinds of ugly fringing, etc. My question is, do non-APO lenses affect B&W photography. Does the fringing only occur in color or is there anything from axial and lateral chromatic aberration that shows up in B&W photos? Probably a stupid question, but a question nevertheless.
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Re: Are B&W Photos Affected by APO Lenses?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 03:22:05 am »

Black-and-white photos are affected because the image is captured in colour first, before tonemapping curves are applied to produce a black-and-white image. These curves are generally not the same for every colour; therefore, there will be a fringing effect in the final black-and-white image.
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Re: Are B&W Photos Affected by APO Lenses?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 03:37:34 am »

Thanks! That is what I assumed, but I have had little (recent) experience with B&W photography.
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Re: Are B&W Photos Affected by APO Lenses?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 03:59:22 am »

I would say that even a native (no bayer, no filters) b&w digital sensor or b&w film improve with apo glass. The color offset "ghosts" produced by non apo chromatic aberrations decrease apparent sharpness and create linear artifacts. Me thinks.
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Re: Are B&W Photos Affected by APO Lenses?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 05:06:58 am »

I would say that even a native (no bayer, no filters) b&w digital sensor or b&w film improve with apo glass.

Yes, and it's due to the better focus of all wavelengths for which the same plane of focus is achieved, at the same time.

Since we humans respond mostly to luminance resolution (and luminance can simplified be seen as a weighted combination of e.g. R, G and B wavelength bands) that synchronized focus of more wavelength bands is helpful. It will also not hurt our very high visual acuity for colors (due to the dense packing of cones in the Fovea Centralis), but the chrominance can still be harder to separate visually than luminance, and our eyes with their single imperfect lens may not be as well APO corrected ...

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Re: Are B&W Photos Affected by APO Lenses?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 04:16:23 pm »

Since B&W film is sensitive to most visual wavelengths (there were both ortho- and pan-chromatic films), as are color sensors and even single color (monochrome) sensors, then APO lenses provide a theoretically superior image, giving a more uniform (faithful) response to the incoming light.

As for our eyes, we definitely do not have APO eyes. Red and green wavelengths are focused to different points into our eyes (depth-wise). This fact led to the development of a "Duo-Chrome" test during refraction to better optimize imperfect glasses.

However, our corneas are aspheric in shape (until mucked up with laser surgery, which typically turns it spherical). In fact, even trilobites had aspheric-shapes terminating each compound element.
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