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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2014, 11:05:30 am »

Hey hey a new Photoshop. I am well excited. But then I used to get excited about a new enlarger in the old days. This feels a bit like that but it's free.

Yep, free, of course if you forget that you have already paid for it through your monthly subscription fee. ;)

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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2014, 11:16:01 am »

Yep, free, of course if you forget that you have already paid for it through your monthly subscription fee. ;)
Is the glass half empty?
It is free for the new features. Old version without new features or new software with new features has a cost. There was always a cost too.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2014, 11:25:39 am »

Jeff,

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hence the new CC (2014) code base

The light is dawning... thanks.  This the also accounts for the significant difference in program size, as I shared in an earlier post?

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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2014, 11:43:28 am »

Adobe, I love the CC system, but this is retarded.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2014, 12:03:15 pm »

Adobe, I love the CC system, but this is retarded.

Agree... not exactly the clarion of clarity.  

When I was fire chief for a fairly large agency, and I had a need to write a memo to "all hands," I'd take my draft and give it to the most junior person on the deparment.  If they could read it and understand what I was "trying to say" I knew that I was "good."  If they couldn't, I went back to the drawing board.

Adobe makes fabulous software.  Clear communications/explanations ... not so much.   ;D

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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2014, 12:17:33 pm »

Adobe is quite obviously run by tech geeks, for tech geeks.  In contrast to Apple run by tech geeks but with the added buffer of a human interaction department to make sure things like this never make it out.

While *I* can look at this and see what's going on, you can bet your ass the VAST majority of users will be confused and CERTAINLY not know what to do for the best setup afterwards.

What this was telling me was the bottom 'Lightroom 5' was my current 5.4 version.  Notice they don't even have the good sense to include the version numbers anywhere.  Which wouldn't be a problem if they didn't do stupid stuff like we now see.

The top 'Lightroom 5' is the update, version 5.5.  Up to this point I have never seen multiple instances, it simply says Update Pending for whatever is there.  Again, no good sense here.

Then we have the genius of the Adobe team reverting BACK to version numbers when they said they were done (cc).  Now instead of 'Photoshop CC' getting an update like has been done till now, we have the 2014 designations for most of the applications.  First, STUPID versioning.  What will the updates be called, 2014.1?  Second, it's certainly not clear to the average user that this is an ALL NEW installation.  You can bet most users will now have redundant, old versions hogging drive space.  Hell I have seen photographers with 4 old versions still installed because they had no clue they were still there.  Same with Lightroom.

CC was supposed to handle all this a LOT better.  It boils down to shitty design by the Adobe staff.  They need to REALLY look at how other companies handle things, like Apple or even Steam.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2014, 01:11:42 pm »

I'm not seeing the option to upgrade to Ps 2014. The only (2014) app I see is InCopy CC (2014)...

Logged out. Quit Adobe CC helper app. Started it again. Logged back in.

Fixed.

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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2014, 01:58:09 pm »

Assuming the latest versions, that worked just fine for me under Mac OS X.

Thanks Andrew. I'm on v2.0.7 of PKS2, so I'll give it a try :)

On the subject of Plugins, I notice that in PSCC I still have some that show up in the Finder with old-style ImageReady plugin icons, while others have a modern-style blue lego-brick icon. Is the icon any indication of the usability/ obsolescence of the plugin?

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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2014, 02:01:06 pm »

On the subject of Plugins, I notice that in PSCC I still have some that show up in the Finder with old-style ImageReady plugin icons, while others have a modern-style blue lego-brick icon. Is the icon any indication of the usability/ obsolescence of the plugin?
Not that I'm aware of.

And if anyone out there is using PK products on CC 2014 under Windows 8, love to know if that's working OK for you.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2014, 02:47:24 pm »

Great, and it broke the Edit In process.  Now it launches the new PS CC 2014...but no image.  Thanks Adobe, now I get to debug your shit...again.  Win 7
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2014, 02:49:16 pm »

Great, and it broke the Edit In process.  Now it launches the new PS CC 2014...but no image.  Thanks Adobe, now I get to debug your shit...again.  Win 7
The order you install LR and PS has been a long standing issue. Install PS then LR, the Edit In 'link' should fix itself.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2014, 02:50:57 pm »

#1, I did the Update all in CC.  That's not the issue.  #2 the link works fine, as I said.  PS launches.  It just doesn't create the TIF anymore and open it.  Now looking in the Adobe forums it's FILLED with people with major issues with 5.5.  I do NOT suggest anyone update yet.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2014, 02:53:12 pm »

I'm going to try uninstalling LR and installing fresh.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2014, 03:00:21 pm »

No change...

I tried setting photoshop.exe as the 'External Application'.  Same results.  It's like LR is not producing the TIF file for editing.  Tried all the settings, PSD, compression, bit depth - nothing.  I'll try on another machine.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2014, 03:03:30 pm »

Works fine on my studio Win8 system, same process. 

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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2014, 03:05:51 pm »

OK narrowing it down...works fine on a TIF file, not on a DNG.  I'll do a new import and see if it works on a RAW...

...nope.  So it has to do with ACR maybe?
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2014, 03:10:20 pm »

ACR reads current, 8.5.

I'll try uninstalling PS, deleting every folder and starting fresh.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2014, 03:23:12 pm »

That did it.  had to uninstall then COMPLETELY wipe all folders regarding PS and ACR.  There were many spread out.
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2014, 04:42:37 pm »

And then there's this (if you Windows folks find you can't use Develop module or can't launch):
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/unable-launch-lightroom-55.html
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Re: "Photoshop CC (2014)"
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2014, 06:33:45 pm »

Assuming the latest versions, that worked just fine for me under Mac OS X.

Unfortunately that did not work for me on a Win 7 64-bit computer.  PKS 2.07 one of the very few plug-ins I couldn't just copy and paste into CC 2014.  What have other people experienced?

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