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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #240 on: July 15, 2014, 11:58:59 pm »

My DP2 Quattro arrived this morning.   My initial walk around shots are very encouraging.  Its a weird design, but arguably better build quality than the Merrills.   

Quentin

Quentin,

I was hoping you'd get the Quattro!  I am most anxious to have your opinion of "pure image quality" compared to the DP2 Merrill.  I'm content w/ the slow, idiosyncratic operation of the Merrills so improvements there are of no great concern to me.  What I really want to know is if the amazing detail rendering of the Merrill has been "one upped" enough for me to take the plunge.

Thanks in advance for what I know will be a well considered opinion from someone who knows how to get the very best from the Merrills.

Best regards,
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #241 on: July 16, 2014, 02:49:37 am »

Imaging Resource got around to updating their DP2Q report with some raw files, and they reprocessed one of their comparison shots of their standard multi-detail-color scene.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/07/12/sigma-dp2-quattro-first-shots-posted

Here's the direct link to the impressive SPP "default" conversion:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sigma-dp2-quattro/FULLRES/DP2QhSLI0100H_spp.JPG
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #242 on: July 16, 2014, 04:45:01 am »

Interesting, so the mushiness we were talking about may be a firm/software thing. The quattro definitely looks sharper than the Merrill here, but let's wait for more shots processed with the latest version of SPP.

BTW, does anyone know if there will be a SD1Q?
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #243 on: July 16, 2014, 04:56:28 am »

I will try a better comparison this weekend.  The Quattro files are more subtle in their rendering.  Im not much of a "brick wall" shooter, but i will sort something out, as I am interested myself in the outcome of a direct comparison.

Quentin,

I was hoping you'd get the Quattro!  I am most anxious to have your opinion of "pure image quality" compared to the DP2 Merrill.  I'm content w/ the slow, idiosyncratic operation of the Merrills so improvements there are of no great concern to me.  What I really want to know is if the amazing detail rendering of the Merrill has been "one upped" enough for me to take the plunge.

Thanks in advance for what I know will be a well considered opinion from someone who knows how to get the very best from the Merrills.

Best regards,
Rand
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #244 on: July 16, 2014, 08:41:10 am »

Note: It seems that Imaging resource did not evaluate the DP2M and are comparing the DP2Q to the DP1M. I'm not sure I'd want to use the DP1M as a proxy for the DP2M.   Just my 2 cents.   
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #245 on: July 16, 2014, 02:35:04 pm »

Also, the DP1M images they have are not representative of it's capabilities, at least not what I've seen, IMO.  It's a stupid comparison anyway.

DP2Q looks good, I just prefer the Merrill.  I hope software/firmware improves it. 
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #246 on: July 16, 2014, 04:07:50 pm »

Hi paul o & T 1000,

They show further down the page a comparison of DP2Q versus Nikon D800E.

Anyways, their review is in the "first shots" stage.


Note: It seems that Imaging resource did not evaluate the DP2M and are comparing the DP2Q to the DP1M. I'm not sure I'd want to use the DP1M as a proxy for the DP2M.   Just my 2 cents.   

Also, the DP1M images they have are not representative of it's capabilities, at least not what I've seen, IMO.  It's a stupid comparison anyway.

DP2Q looks good, I just prefer the Merrill.  I hope software/firmware improves it. 
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #247 on: July 22, 2014, 01:01:12 am »

Here is my initial write up about using the camera for a few days before I had to send it back to Sigma. An interesting camera, since I had not used the Merrills I had nothing to base the experience on other than reading about the previous cameras. So in some ways it is similar from what I have read about them. It has a lot of resolution compared to what I have been using. I might rent a Merrill now and see what the differences are and if they matter to me. I am on the fence about ordering one. It has some potential and some drawbacks.

http://www.aps-photo.com/2014/07/sigma-dp2-quattro-high-resolution-niche-camera/

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #248 on: July 22, 2014, 01:41:15 am »

Here is my initial write up about using the camera for a few days before I had to send it back to Sigma. An interesting camera, since I had not used the Merrills I had nothing to base the experience on other than reading about the previous cameras. So in some ways it is similar from what I have read about them. It has a lot of resolution compared to what I have been using. I might rent a Merrill now and see what the differences are and if they matter to me. I am on the fence about ordering one. It has some potential and some drawbacks.

http://www.aps-photo.com/2014/07/sigma-dp2-quattro-high-resolution-niche-camera/

Alan


Hi Alan, nice review, thank you for taking the time to report your findings.

The cactus crop has some fantastic colors and tones. I am surprised the lens showed so well at F/16.

A couple comments, first, the cable release, I think they are going to come out with one, it plugs into the USB, at least that was what was stated previously. Second, regarding the 9 focus points, unless they changed the operation from the Merrills, you can actually go into another focus mode that allows you to scroll the focus point inside a larger box. This is accessed by first going into focus point selection, then pressing the "monitor" button to toggle the alternate mode. I hope they retained this feature, or better yet, expanded it to a larger frame. Third, the SPP might have an option to stop carrying over prior settings in the preferences, at least that is the way in SPP5.5.x, so set it to "Apply X3F settings" as opposed to "Apply previous settings"

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #249 on: July 22, 2014, 01:49:39 am »

Thanks Alan, I share your views.

I'll have to perform a comparison again with my new D810 + Otus, but I do have the feeling that the DP2 Quattro resolves more than the D800.

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #250 on: July 22, 2014, 04:20:00 am »

Thanks for this interesting report! I'll probably have to wait 2 or 3 months before the DP Quattro is available at the local store.
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #251 on: July 22, 2014, 09:38:54 am »

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A couple comments, first, the cable release, I think they are going to come out with one

The cable release is already available directly from Sigma.  I have one sitting on my desk.  I ordered it and the lens hood pending availability of the camera.

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #252 on: July 22, 2014, 10:19:27 am »

Thanks for all the comments. And thanks for the heads up on the release, that is good news. I sent the article to Sigma as well, I don't really expect to hear anything from them but it might be interesting if they do respond.

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #253 on: July 22, 2014, 02:55:50 pm »

Will miracles never cease? Sigma has gotten the message - landscape photographers want cable or wireless releases.
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #254 on: July 22, 2014, 03:56:09 pm »

Will miracles never cease? Sigma has gotten the message - landscape photographers want cable or wireless releases.

Nancy,

LOL - yup.  Now, if we could just convice them that the connectors for these should be at "the other end" of the camera from where an L-plate covers up the ports... well, there just wouldn't be much else to ask for!  :-)

Speaking of which... I querried Really Right Stuff as to whether they'll be making an L-plate for the Quattro cameras and received a reply that said they don't know, and that my query was the first received.  They also encouraged me to encourage others who would be interested to send them an email expressing that interest.

To whit, let them know:  info@reallyrightstuff.com

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #255 on: July 22, 2014, 08:10:26 pm »

Bernard, do you see an improvement in image quality from the DP2M to the DP2Q?  Is it worth it to upgrade?
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« Reply #256 on: July 23, 2014, 04:57:12 am »

Bernard, do you see an improvement in image quality from the DP2M to the DP2Q?  Is it worth it to upgrade?

I tested it and no, it do not worth it compared to the Merrill who is at around 400$. If you have some basics in post processing, you will really enjoy it. You might go directly to a DP3m, the last Merrill iteration, a short tele with Macro, more adjusted color wise than the DP2m. All in one, even the DP3m is very little, very well made, discrete, with a real SD card door (It is just a rubber band on the Quattro).

And ofc I recoup what Bernard say : A D800 or, even better, a D810 bury the Quattro and the Merrill. Pixels are over rated this days. The global IQ is more important.
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #257 on: July 23, 2014, 07:05:24 am »

Bernard, do you see an improvement in image quality from the DP2M to the DP2Q?  Is it worth it to upgrade?

At base ISO, probably not. They are very close.

At higher ISOs yes, within the Sigma world, but it falls far behind most recent DSLRs.

I like the DP2 quattro though because it is much more usable than the DP2m in terms of battery life, overall smoothness of operations,...

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #258 on: July 23, 2014, 08:47:19 am »

I love the Merrills so much I'm contemplating the possible purchase of an SD1 Merrill + 35mm 1.4 Art. Will not be as sharp as a DP2M but can be more versatile. Can anyone tell me if the autofocus could be faster?
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Re: Sigma DP Quattro
« Reply #259 on: July 23, 2014, 12:51:54 pm »

If RRS doesn't make a bracket, maybe John Milich ( http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/jlm_sigma_grip.shtml  ) or Chris Hejnar ( www.hejnarphoto.com ) might do so.
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