Ilford Imaging bankrupt

[HCHeyerdahl]

Thank you !

Oh, there is nothing wrong with the printer software. However,I do like to give the profiles provided by the paper manufacturer a try.   

On the other hand, since supplies are limited anyway do you have any suggestions for an alternative to the Ilford galerie smooth Pearl?

Chris

[JRSmit]

Here i  the netherlands pro-line vibrant luster is a good alternative.

[Ernst Dinkla]

Here i  the netherlands pro-line vibrant luster is a good alternative.

Much cooler though with more OBA content and that at the coating side, not in the paper base. The texture and weight are close.


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[Czornyj]

Tecco is goong to offer Gold Fibre Silk clone - Tecco Fibre Silk. Samples should become available in the middle of feb.

[Mark D Segal]

Hi Marcin,

Interesting - but Tecco is a brand virtually unknown in North America (but well-known in Germany). They list one internet distributor in the USA whose website says nothing about inkjet photo paper. I think for now the safest bet is Canson Baryta Photographique which is virtually interchangeable with IGFS.

Mark

[Pete Berry]

Hi Marcin,

Interesting - but Tecco is a brand virtually unknown in North America (but well-known in Germany). They list one internet distributor in the USA whose website says nothing about inkjet photo paper. I think for now the safest bet is Canson Baryta Photographique which is virtually interchangeable with IGFS.

Mark

Mark, does the Canson BP have the same warmish base color as does GFS? Also, is it as stiff and difficult to flatten?

I pushed the panic button a few weeks ago and bought four 17" rolls of GFS, as well as some Galerie Smooth Pearl. I was surprised to see how economical the Canson is - $85 for a 50' roll, whereas I paid a deeply discounted $75 each for the 39.4' GFS rolls.

Pete

[Mark D Segal]

Actually both papers are very close to neutral. Read the Lab data provided. I hardly ever use roll paper so I can't answer your question about flattening. The one time I used roll paper, I had the panorama mounted (see my article on this website) and the company who did the work had no problem with it, but that was IGFS. Never used roll of Canson.

[Czornyj]

Hi Marcin,

Interesting - but Tecco is a brand virtually unknown in North America (but well-known in Germany). They list one internet distributor in the USA whose website says nothing about inkjet photo paper. I think for now the safest bet is Canson Baryta Photographique which is virtually interchangeable with IGFS.

Mark

Tecco is a german paper manufacturer, that AFAIK provides OEM papers for Epson, Canon, EFI (proofing substrates) and so on - it was making my beloved and sorely missed Canon Photo Glacier a.k.a. HW Satin among the others. Ironically it had been acquired by Ilford just before the bankruptcy...
http://www.ilford.com/en/about-us/press/ilford-group-ag-acquires-tecco-gmbh/

[Mark D Segal]

I wonder whether Tecco is at all affected by the bankruptcy of its parent company. Nothing has been said about this, so presumably means there is no impact, but would be good to know for sure.

[Ernst Dinkla]

It must have been a change in marketing strategy that Ilford Imaging got involved with several more pre-press orientated companies in 2013 (Tecco is one of them). It also acquired Kodak Matchprint certificates at the end of 2013. I guess that there were some escape routes in the contracts as Ilford Imaging's financial history was not among the best. I checked Tecco's site the last months but did not see signs of issues there. On the other hand one wonders why they accepted the bid at that time.

More companies are bringing Ilford alternatives on the market. I can not testify which products do equal the Ilford quality on all aspects but I will try to get some tests done in the coming weeks.

http://www.rauch-papiere.de/aktuelles/ilford-alternativen/

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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

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January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.

[MBMPhotography]

It is really a sad news I remember some nice talks with the people from Ilford two years ago at Photokina 2012 where they were showing the Mono Silk and now ... gone

While I was doing some last stock shopping mainly of GFS and Mono Silk in my usual UK based online store, I saw that they are suggesting to check the Permajet Smooth Pearl 280gsm as a possible replacement for the Smooth Pearl 280. I do not have experience with that  paper so I cannot say if it is really the case.

[OliverS]

I wonder whether Tecco is at all affected by the bankruptcy of its parent company.
Nothing has been said about this, so presumably means there is no impact, but would be good to know for sure.

The information in first half of 2013 was, that Tecco is a part of Ilford, but in that time we all get informed of the bakruptcy of Ilford in second half of 2013, Tecco wrote that they are owend by a japanese company.

Sold again or never be part of Ilford?

--> http://blog.tecco.de/en/teccopress-information

[Jeremy Roussak]

While I was doing some last stock shopping mainly of GFS and Mono Silk in my usual UK based online store, I saw that they are suggesting to check the Permajet Smooth Pearl 280gsm as a possible replacement for the Smooth Pearl 280. I do not have experience with that  paper so I cannot say if it is really the case.

I've just bought some of the Permajet Smooth Pearl 280. I wasn't particularly happy with the way the purchase was handled by Imaging Warehouse, the supplied in the UK, but the problem was mainly very poor communication and the paper arrived only a few days late.

I've not done much printing on it, but the few prints I have look good. The paper has a pleasant, subtle texture to it. It's notably lighter and more flexible than my preferred GFS, but that's not comparing like with like. I'd say it was well worth a look, particularly since it's being quite heavily discounted until (I think) March.

Jerem

[araru]

Tecco was in one grup with Ilford under japanese owner. Ilford is gone, but they are safe. It's well known brand in Europe. You should expect that good papers from Ilford will be avalible under Tecco brand now. It will be Tecco Baryt Fibre Silk and Tecco Smooth Pearl.
There are another papers similar to Ilford but in this case, not the same
You can find a list of Tecco - Ilford alternatives:
http://finde-deine-alternative.tecco-photo.de/en/produktuebersicht/

[Ernst Dinkla]

Tecco was in one grup with Ilford under japanese owner. Ilford is gone, but they are safe. It's well known brand in Europe. You should expect that good papers from Ilford will be avalible under Tecco brand now. It will be Tecco Baryt Fibre Silk and Tecco Smooth Pearl.

The Japanese OJI paper sold Ilford in 2010 after 5 years ownership. It was a British investors company that abandoned Ilford Imaging from its portfolio maybe two years ago. AFAIK it was a management owned Ilford Imaging that acquired Tecco in 2013. That there is no effect on Tecco suggests that that deal was not that tight end of 2013.

Hope your information on the Tecco papers is better. The Ilford Imaging coating facility most likely will not be involved in the production so either the Tecco qualities are coated somewhere else with similar specifications or rebranded papers already available elsewhere.


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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.

[OliverS]

There are another papers similar to Ilford but in this case, not the same

I think you are wrong, Ernst wrote it already. The japanese sold Ilford to a britsh investor some time ago.

And there are definitely other papers in the market, next to the Tecco papers, who are "the same".
Have a look at.

[JayS]

Are any of the profiles available online anywhere?  Specifically looking for Canon MK9000 II and Canon Pro-100 for Ilford Galerie Prestige Smooth Pearl 8.5x11" 310gsm 25 Sheet Pack..

[howardm]

for the -100, look here:  http://singular.myrsphoto.com/ilford-printer-profiles/

[JohnBrew]

Last time I checked B&H still had plenty of GFS in stock.

[JayS]

Not much of anything left..  100 count 4x6 pearl..

Last time I checked B&H still had plenty of GFS in stock.