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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #140 on: November 04, 2013, 11:03:56 pm »

If I was going for the hipster look and wanted around 16mpx I'd just buy the Xe1 and glue a little window on the left side so it would look like a rangefinder.

At least the fuji shoots a very cool looking file.

Since the Df uses a D4 sensor, it is probably at least 2 stops better than the Fuji at high ISO.

It feels like night and day to me but what do I know?  ;)

Combine this with the new DxO 9 high ISO noise reduction and you have a low light ability that is simply unheard of in a body at this price point.

Besides, considering that there are only 2 real contenders in DSLRs these days, I feel that Nikon deserves a lot of praise over Canon would it only be for just for doing these things as opposed to releasing another boring point upgrade of black plastic DSLR focusing on video shooting.

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #141 on: November 04, 2013, 11:15:35 pm »

No interchangeable screens, .7 viewfinder magnification.

I'm out then.
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #142 on: November 04, 2013, 11:19:09 pm »

No interchangeable screens, .7 viewfinder magnification.

I'm out then.

same here, quite unfortunate!
To me, it looks like a fat girl in tight jeans: lots of curves, IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES!
I just wish they had styled it in more of a "retro" theme, like a FM2N or F3, like this mock-up(below):



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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #143 on: November 04, 2013, 11:27:13 pm »

No interchangeable screens, .7 viewfinder magnification.

I'm out then.

I'll just pop a roll of Provia in my FTn then and have an enjoyable day out with the Real Thing.   ;)

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #144 on: November 04, 2013, 11:37:46 pm »

Since the Df uses a D4 sensor, it is probably at least 2 stops better than the Fuji at high ISO.

It feels like night and day to me but what do I know?  ;)

Combine this with the new DxO 9 high ISO noise reduction and you have a low light ability that is simply unheard of in a body at this price point.

Besides, considering that there are only 2 real contenders in DSLRs these days, I feel that Nikon deserves a lot of praise over Canon would it only be for just for doing these things as opposed to releasing another boring point upgrade of black plastic DSLR focusing on video shooting.

Cheers,
Bernard


I have a D4 and it is not much use as far as image quality goes, although the AF is very good.
The pen and the coat in the ads look nice :)
Why do I feel camera ads are now fashion ads for guys?

I am afraid James is right, the Olympus OM-D5 is probably the nearest we're going to get to old 35mm camera form factor, and with the OM-D1 we can see them go kludgy again.

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #145 on: November 04, 2013, 11:40:26 pm »

I'll just pop a roll of Provia in my FTn then and have an enjoyable day out with the Real Thing.   ;)

-Dave-

good call :)
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #146 on: November 04, 2013, 11:47:19 pm »

I have a D4 and it is not much use as far as image quality goes, although the AF is very good.

OK, send it to me, I'll know how to tap into its potential.  ;)

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Bernard

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #148 on: November 05, 2013, 12:52:40 am »

Hey, Nikon, give me this (see attached pic) with an electronic sensor inside and a few buttons on the back to deal with the basic necessities...then I'll take you seriously re. "retro." Until then, good luck with the marketeer schtick-ola.

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #149 on: November 05, 2013, 02:02:18 am »

Hey, Nikon, give me this (see attached pic) with an electronic sensor inside and a few buttons on the back to deal with the basic necessities...then I'll take you seriously re. "retro." Until then, good luck with the marketeer schtick-ola.

-Dave-

I'm not exactly sure this camera is just a "chicque" retro jewel, "Nikons Leica clone" or whatever.
Its a state of the art high tech machine with a retro style user interface with many one-function-dials and all important functions being accessible from the mechanical interface.

Its a ruggedized high-tech steampunk machine.

I am very curious how the photographer community will react to it.

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #150 on: November 05, 2013, 02:43:18 am »

I can get a Sony A7r for AUD 2399 so end of story for me. Even though I may be a photo bigamist I just can't see the point.
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #151 on: November 05, 2013, 03:47:00 am »

Tataaaaa! (Drumroll):

http://www.nikon.com/news/2013/1105_dslr_01.htm
Dear me, what pretentious marketing BS.  Take this (poorly written, run on) sentence.
Not only does it support the capture of more beautiful and artistic photos, as well as a variety of photographic expression, possible with other cameras, it also allows users to take their time with each individual photo to achieve images they will enjoy, as well as making the process of photography itself more pleasing.

And despite it's retro pretensions apparently it shoots 3D!  :o
The Df is also able to reproduce textures with a superior three-dimensional appearance at low sensitivities, such as ISO 100, without sacrificing dynamic range.

Sadly it seems like Nikon are indulging in a marketing exercise aimed at people up themselves.
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #152 on: November 05, 2013, 04:18:51 am »

Dear me, what pretentious marketing BS.  Take this (poorly written, run on) sentence.
Not only does it support the capture of more beautiful and artistic photos, as well as a variety of photographic expression, possible with other cameras, it also allows users to take their time with each individual photo to achieve images they will enjoy, as well as making the process of photography itself more pleasing.

And despite it's retro pretensions apparently it shoots 3D!  :o
The Df is also able to reproduce textures with a superior three-dimensional appearance at low sensitivities, such as ISO 100, without sacrificing dynamic range.

Sadly it seems like Nikon are indulging in a marketing exercise aimed at people up themselves.

You didn't get the irony, did you?
I should have marked it - internet takes it away ... :P

Still I think this cameras user interface looks interesting - pricing is another question.
I'm not interested what marketing guys tell - but I like the "everything accessible without menus" concept.

What I'd especially want if I were in the market for a DSLR (and its given here):
- Extra rings for speed, iso and exposure compensation.
- Focus ring at lens
- F-Stop ring at lens
- Stopping down preview button at front
- MUP
- Self timer long enough to let vibrations fade out after mirror slap.
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #153 on: November 05, 2013, 04:21:00 am »

it's a toy for optometrists with a leaning towards sentimentality to use on their holidays.
it's not ground breaking, it's a retro-bauble for fetishists and nothing more.
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #154 on: November 05, 2013, 04:25:45 am »

Decadence.
What's this thread doing in the "compact" board anyway? It's another dinosaur DSLR with a few grams trimmed off. The offer of a retro-look repackaged 50/1.8 only serves to emphasise the fact that this is a chunk of male jewellery in no fundamental sense different to the "Hasselblad" Loony. Of course it will produce decent snaps if you point it at something interesting like everything else on the market. Ludicrous.
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #155 on: November 05, 2013, 04:58:33 am »

Colour me underwhelmed. It looks nice enough - I certainly prefer the styling to that of the other Nikon DSLRs - but a ridiculous price for what is a camera that is less well specced than a D610. For heaven's sake, it's considerably more expensive than a D800e, and given that I spend more time looking through my camera than at it, looks alone ain't enough.

I was waiting to see whether this would be my replacement for the D700. It isn't. I think I'll be sticking with what I've got for now. I did want a second body, but that might just be a Fujifilm X100s.

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« Reply #156 on: November 05, 2013, 05:41:29 am »

There's nothing wrong with mongrels - hybrid vigour & all that jazz. Mongrels don't tend to suffer from the problems we see in many pure-breds, and it's certainly significantly cheaper to buy a scruffy cross-breed than a Kennel Club registered fancy breed. Looking at the price of the Df, the analogy has just fallen apart

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #157 on: November 05, 2013, 05:55:18 am »

it's a toy for optometrists with a leaning towards sentimentality to use on their holidays.
it's not ground breaking, it's a retro-bauble for fetishists and nothing more.

I absolutely agree with you !

 
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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #158 on: November 05, 2013, 06:01:29 am »

I think there is no reason to bash this camera.
What deserves bashing is the price and the way it is marketed.
That should be separated.

For people only doing stills this could be the camera they desire.
I personally would like a user interface like the one presented.
Though - if I had to chose inside Fullframe Land today - I'd go for a D800 or the A7R.

My impression also is the price tag definitely adds to the bad reception of this camera here.
As if the ostrich scrotum leather version already were on its way .....

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Re: Digital Nikon FM2 on his way
« Reply #159 on: November 05, 2013, 06:13:44 am »

Never mind retro, this camera opens up a whole new genre of cameras. Mongrel.
I resisted the temptation to say this, mainly on the "hybrid vigour" basis; someone got there before me on that too. And wasn't this thing supposed to be some sort of hybrid? What kind of hybrid are we talking about?
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