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Rob C

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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #2880 on: July 22, 2019, 06:56:39 am »

The disconnect between the political threads and the others seems, to me, to be pretty absolute.

I don't pick up on any cross-vibes that indicate a carried-over animosity at all.

The problem seems to me - if indeed there is one - that some people who are not interested in political chat, or are afraid if it, want to close it down for the others, too. What happened to self-determination and ignoring what you don't find interesting?

I see a lack of pro posters; there isn't any doubt about that at all. They were what drew me to looking at pics here more than anything else: I became - and remain - quite a fan of BC's work, not only because of his style with model shooting and his very deep experience, but because of his free 'n' easy way of expressing his mind. He sounds like somebody I would really like to know, and yeah, he gets what much of the reason for doing pro work is. Not all pros do; and no, it isn't only the money, surprisingly enough.

There is another aspect to the images shortage, too, in that it appears to me that only a very little group of people here is able to understand some genres of work - I'd put Oscar, Ivo into such a group of people producing something that's different to the usual. A past-poster living in France, Graham Byrnes, also contributed quite a lot of interesting people photography. Our artist buddy Peter never fails to come up with his gems, and Russ has an amazing back catalogue of so many things. Shamus Flynn used to be someone who almost never put a photographic foot wrong. Not many of those people about. Eric has a beautiful book.

That said, most of the rest of us just come up with more of the same of what we've been doing since the ark was launched, or worse, become mired in techniques the way folks used to be with Cokin filters. In other words, we get predictable and not interesting. Apart from that, it takes a lot of effort to keep producing images, and perhaps it doesn't always seem to be worth the effort. Many peope who lived for photography discovered it simply wasn't enough to sustain them.

To return to the politics: not all those who scribble there post pics very frequently. Ever thought of that or wondered why not?

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« Reply #2881 on: July 22, 2019, 07:57:24 am »

There are contributors on LuLa who I used to respect but sadly that respect is long gone. I simply can't separate the person and their political beliefs from the photographer. I admit that this could be my problem but that's how it is.

I realise I've put myself on the line by expressing my thoughts but I've never been one to mince my words. I also realise by expressing these thoughts I may well loose the respect of others here: I'll live with it.
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« Reply #2882 on: July 22, 2019, 08:22:32 am »

There are contributors on LuLa who I used to respect but sadly that respect is long gone. I simply can't separate the person and their political beliefs from the photographer. I admit that this could be my problem but that's how it is. I realise I've put myself on the line by expressing my thoughts but I've never been one to mince my words.

I'll live with it.


That's fair enough.

Fortunately, I don't share that view; if I did, I would instantly lose people like HC-B, Ronis, Doisneau, not to mention pretty much all of the people who became Magnum. Their political ideals are almost diametrically opposed to mine. Frank, Leiter, Faurer, Hass - I don't think there was an non-socialist thinker amongst them. For me, as I don't have to marry them, it matters not. What they have supersedes all that in my relationship with their art.

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« Reply #2883 on: July 22, 2019, 08:43:52 am »


That's fair enough.

Fortunately, I don't share that view; if I did, I would instantly lose people like HC-B, Ronis, Doisneau, not to mention pretty much all of the people who became Magnum. Their political ideals are almost diametrically opposed to mine. Frank, Leiter, Faurer, Hass - I don't think there was an non-socialist thinker amongst them. For me, as I don't have to marry them, it matters not. What they have supersedes all that in my relationship with their art.

:-)

Rob, the difference is you are not sharing a photography forum social media blog with them: thankfully they all had better things to do.
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« Reply #2884 on: July 22, 2019, 09:24:41 am »


That's fair enough.

Fortunately, I don't share that view; if I did, I would instantly lose people like HC-B, Ronis, Doisneau, not to mention pretty much all of the people who became Magnum. Their political ideals are almost diametrically opposed to mine. Frank, Leiter, Faurer, Hass - I don't think there was an non-socialist thinker amongst them. For me, as I don't have to marry them, it matters not. What they have supersedes all that in my relationship with their art.

:-)

As an aside, their work was a product of their socialist leanings. Funny that.

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« Reply #2885 on: July 22, 2019, 10:56:49 am »

My 2c on the keyword "socialism":

Being a 100% not political and not following/reading any political discussions on lula, all I can say as a former immigrant from the former Soviet Union, living there until the age of 21 - socialism is a pipe dream that will inevitably lead to ruin due to rotten characteristics present in human nature. My grandfather who was idealistically pursuing communism all his life, after coming to the US with his family in 1996, said that it was actually here. America, the way he witnessed it, was far closer to communism than the Soviet Union ever was.

Pictures speak 1000s words, so let's see some!
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« Reply #2886 on: July 22, 2019, 11:11:25 am »

Shot on 645z, recent edit with painterly/cinematic look..

Quite a haunting look.

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« Reply #2887 on: July 22, 2019, 11:53:56 am »

Quite a haunting look.

If not quite blue enough. Oops! Wrong slot.

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« Reply #2888 on: July 22, 2019, 11:55:16 am »

If not quite blue enough.

:-)

Hahah, ironically, it was shot on a blue-colored canvas backdrop:)

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« Reply #2889 on: July 22, 2019, 02:58:29 pm »

My 2c on the keyword "socialism":

Being a 100% not political and not following/reading any political discussions on lula, all I can say as a former immigrant from the former Soviet Union, living there until the age of 21 - socialism is a pipe dream that will inevitably lead to ruin due to rotten characteristics present in human nature. My grandfather who was idealistically pursuing communism all his life, after coming to the US with his family in 1996, said that it was actually here. America, the way he witnessed it, was far closer to communism than the Soviet Union ever was.

Pictures speak 1000s words, so let's see some!

Yes; I enjoy your work, Michael. Keep that kind of comment to the Coffee Corner, please.

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« Reply #2890 on: July 22, 2019, 03:34:24 pm »

Yes; I enjoy your work, Michael. Keep that kind of comment to the Coffee Corner, please.

Jeremy


Jeremy,

I realise that it's oh so easy to get caught up the moment when in a non-CCorner groove amd remark on things political; I'm probably as guilty as anyone else on that score, but you're quite right: best not to mix the two. I shall try to remember that too.

Rob

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« Reply #2891 on: July 31, 2019, 11:27:09 am »

Here are some images that I really liked from a recent shoot.  By the looks of the first three images, you may think this project is rather secluded but is actually in a well populated shore point.  The high dunes and the fact it is the closest house to the beach really allowed for a remote feel in some of the images. 

For the first shot, we tried one without the car but I felt the image lost something.  Perhaps it was too much empty road or a lesser humane feeling.  The car just feels so natural and adds a connection to civilization. 

In other news, I was just able to pick up an used SK 28mm XL Super Digitar.  I am waiting patiently for a new back plate to arrive today so test it out. 
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« Reply #2892 on: July 31, 2019, 05:52:16 pm »

Here are some images that I really liked from a recent shoot.  By the looks of the first three images, you may think this project is rather secluded but is actually in a well populated shore point.  The high dunes and the fact it is the closest house to the beach really allowed for a remote feel in some of the images. 

For the first shot, we tried one without the car but I felt the image lost something.  Perhaps it was too much empty road or a lesser humane feeling.  The car just feels so natural and adds a connection to civilization. 

In other news, I was just able to pick up an used SK 28mm XL Super Digitar.  I am waiting patiently for a new back plate to arrive today so test it out.

Nice images as usual Joe.   How many times did you move the cane back chair in the foreground of the family room image?😎
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« Reply #2893 on: July 31, 2019, 06:29:47 pm »

Nice images as usual Joe.   How many times did you move the cane back chair in the foreground of the family room image?😎

Oh that's good Craig!

Nice work Joe!
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« Reply #2894 on: July 31, 2019, 07:40:35 pm »

Beautiful work, as always.
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« Reply #2895 on: July 31, 2019, 07:56:51 pm »

Thanks Guys.  Yes, the chair took a good amount of finagling to get right. 
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« Reply #2896 on: July 31, 2019, 09:00:41 pm »

Thanks Guys.  Yes, the chair took a good amount of finagling to get right.

You don't think it's distracting being so prominent in the foreground ?

Maybe it's just Craig's bringing it up, power of suggestion and all that.

Very nice work on all the images.
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« Reply #2897 on: July 31, 2019, 09:17:07 pm »

You don't think it's distracting being so prominent in the foreground ?

Maybe it's just Craig's bringing it up, power of suggestion and all that.

Very nice work on all the images.

Maybe.  I went back and forth in whether or not to keep it.  We decided on keeping it, but I still dont know if that was the right choice. 
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« Reply #2898 on: July 31, 2019, 10:55:41 pm »

Thanks Guys.  Yes, the chair took a good amount of finagling to get right.

Been there, done that...more times than I want to admit.
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« Reply #2899 on: August 01, 2019, 12:31:25 am »

Maybe.  I went back and forth in whether or not to keep it.  We decided on keeping it, but I still dont know if that was the right choice.

I think it was the right decision Joe...those who've done it know the heart ache it can cause.

If you'd removed it the table would also have had to go, leaving a big empty corner.
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