A ColorMunki Display tip

[Ellis Vener]

I didn't see this when I installed the software  or elsewhere in any of  the wizards so i wanted to share it here.

Before profiling your display go to the Preferences settings  under the  ColorMunki Display button in the main toolbar) and check to see that your settings are correct.  Make sure you specify the type of backlight technology your display is using otherwise you.  As forthe rest of the settigns  the Tone Response Curve should be 2.2. I am currently using ICC Profile version 2 instead of version 4 ( but I'd like to see a well reasoned argument to switch to version 4);  I have the "Achieve luminance value using video LUT's" option checked (again a good argument not to would be appreciated); and have ADC (Automatic Display Control) active as well.

[howardm]

w/ the luminance via LUT option, you are throwing away bits of resolution because the software will lower the slope of all RGB guns
to do the luminance thing.  This is how CEDP did it for the superbright iMac's (which I own )

[Ellis Vener]

w/ the luminance via LUT option, you are throwing away bits of resolution because the software will lower the slope of all RGB guns
to do the luminance thing.  This is how CEDP did it for the superbright iMac's (which I own )

Do you think that holds true for the White LED backlit 27" iMacs and Apple Cinema Display as well?

[Ellis Vener]

and can I test for that?

[Jamooche]

Thanks for the tips. 

I just ordered the ColorMunki Photo for my 27" iMac that is arriving next week.  I will be calibrating my Epson R1800 with it.  I've been using an old i1 Display 2 with Match for years on my Dell. 

How are the results from the ColorMunki Photo for matching screen to prints on the iMac? It appears to be a different unit from the ColorMunki Display.  Are they the same unit in a different package to add the printer profiling? 

Also, would there be any benefit to upgrade or add the i1Display Pro just reviewed on the LL today?
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/i1display_pro.shtml

Thanks!

[Ellis Vener]

Thanks for the tips.  

I just ordered the ColorMunki Photo for my 27" iMac that is arriving next week.  I will be calibrating my Epson R1800 with it.  I've been using an old i1 Display 2 with Match for years on my Dell.  

How are the results from the ColorMunki Photo for matching screen to prints on the iMac? It appears to be a different unit from the ColorMunki Display.  Are they the same unit in a different package to add the printer profiling?  

Also, would there be any benefit to upgrade or add the i1Display Pro just reviewed on the LL today?
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/i1display_pro.shtml

Thanks!

Both the hardware and software (at least the software has a different user interface) in the ColorMunki Photo (CMP) differs from the ColorMunki Display (CMD) . The CMP hardware is a photospectrometer while the CMP hardware is a colorimeter. I also have the i1 Display Pro but haven't installed the software or worked with it yet.  Unless you need the additional functions of the i1 Display Pro you will likely be just fine with either the CMD or CMP kit. Keith Cooper has  really good reviews of the ColorMunki Photo (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/colormunki.html ) , ColorMunki Display ( http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/colormunki_display.html ) , and  i1 Display Pro (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/i1_display_pro.html)  on his site. Based on my own independent findings, made prior to reading his review agree with his for the most part.

[digitaldog]

w/ the luminance via LUT option, you are throwing away bits of resolution because the software will lower the slope of all RGB guns
to do the luminance thing. 

RGB guns? For a CRT OK, LCD? I don’t believe ColorMunki Display or i1Display Pro support CRTs any more.

One important reason to select the correct display type is the assumptions for filtration use/compensation of the software.

Another reason why custom mated filters are preferable to this one (or two) sized fits all assumption.

[Jamooche]

Both the hardware and software (at least the software has a different user interface) in the ColorMunki Photo (CMP) differs from the ColorMunki Display (CMD) . The CMP hardware is a photospectrometer while the CMP hardware is a colorimeter. I also have the i1 Display Pro but haven't installed the software or worked with it yet.  Unless you need the additional functions of the i1 Display Pro you will likely be just fine with either the CMD or CMP kit. Keith Cooper has  really good reviews of the ColorMunki Photo (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/colormunki.html ) , ColorMunki Display ( http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/colormunki_display.html ) , and  i1 Display Pro (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/i1_display_pro.html)  on his site. Based on my own independent findings, made prior to reading his review agree with his for the most part.

Thanks for the great links Ellis.  It seems the ColorMunki Photo will work fine.  If I decide to get the i1 Display Pro I would still need the ColorMunki Photo to do the printer profiles.  This combination is still much much cheaper than the Pro printer profiler x-rite offers.  I hope to do a full test next week and will post my results.   

[Ellis Vener]

It depends on your needs. The ColorMunki Photo does a fine job with OS X machines but the i1 Photo Pro has some handy tools in it's box.

Here are two: I print with a Canon iPF6300 and use Canon's Export plug-in for Photoshop CS5. I mention this because it bypasses the OS X print driver.

A) i1 Profiler allows you to a) print more patches ( 1200 is the threshold number i use to get very smooth profiles (I also tried using 400, 800, 1600 and 2000 patch targets -- more patches get more smoothness but not enough in my opinion to justify the extra effort) and b.) export the target pages to Photoshop where I can print without a profile assigned.  

B) I tried making profiles  going through a) i1 Profiler (which like the ColorMunki Photo uses the OS X print driver) and through the Photoshop Print routine ( OS X print driver again) as wel las the Canon Export module. The difference in L values for the black point was very different. On Moab Lasal Exhibition Luster 300  the black point L value was 3,0,0 using the Canon Export module and was 9,0,0 when going through the OS X print driver.

Whether my experiences make any difference to you will depend on how you print, what you print with and what you print on,  and of course the subject and your treatment of it.

[howardm]

Fair enough.  I used a poor/inappropriate choice of words for LCD technology.  Perhaps 'channels' ?

RGB guns? For a CRT OK, LCD? I don’t believe ColorMunki Display or i1Display Pro support CRTs any more.

One important reason to select the correct display type is the assumptions for filtration use/compensation of the software.

Another reason why custom mated filters are preferable to this one (or two) sized fits all assumption.