Topic: Hasselblad vs Mamiya RZ67 Pro II (Read 21960 times)

jools230575 · « **on:** April 14, 2010, 01:48:08 pm »

Hi folks

I was looking at acquiring a medium format camera. It has come down to looking at the Mamiya or Hasselblad systems.

My question is though, out of the two systems which one offers the most flexibility with shutter speeds? I can see that the Mamiya offers up the ability to change the speed by half stops rather than full stops.

Do any of the Hassie's (non-digital systems) offer up half stops/ third stops on the shutter speed?

Why do I ask? Bracketing is important to me and so I need that control over my exposure.

Thanks for the advice to be offered up!

Jools

cyberean · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:00:41 pm »

Quote from: jools230575

Do any of the Hassie's (non-digital systems) offer up half stops/ third stops on the shutter speed?

yes, the hass 200/2000 series allows 1/2 stops

Frank Doorhof · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2010, 02:52:34 am »

Hi,
Please remember that the RZ67ProII is not a camera that you can handheld for a day in the field.
I would advise to look at a 645AFD/III and you can set in 1/3rds with that camera if needed.

marcel b · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2010, 05:22:37 am »

Quote from: Frank Doorhof

Hi,
Please remember that the RZ67ProII is not a camera that you can handheld for a day in the field.

hoi frank,
I know that many of you guys here think like this about the RZ, but I'm doing it for years - it's just, what you're used to. and I've also seen very skinny female photographers shooting it handheld the whole day.
the H system is not as light as you would expect, either.

besides that, don't pay too much attention to what other people think about a system - it has to fit your needs.

best regrads,
marcel

billthecat · « **Reply #4 on:** April 15, 2010, 05:45:37 am »

I'm hand holding and loving it, though I only use it for a few hours at at time. The grip helps a lot. With 110 lens, finder, winder and grip it weighs a bit over 10 pounds. It has been good therapy for my hands after too much computer use.

Bill

Quote from: Frank Doorhof

Hi,
Please remember that the RZ67ProII is not a camera that you can handheld for a day in the field.
I would advise to look at a 645AFD/III and you can set in 1/3rds with that camera if needed.

TMARK · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2010, 09:54:10 am »

I mainly use the RZ hand held. With the 110, AE finder and grip, sometimes even the winder, but the winder starts to get heavy really fast.

The Blads are really nice, very compact, light. The lenses have bite to them, and are perfect for B&W film. I prefer the Blad lenses for film, and the RZ lenses for digital.

Quote from: marcel b

hoi frank,
I know that many of you guys here think like this about the RZ, but I'm doing it for years - it's just, what you're used to. and I've also seen very skinny female photographers shooting it handheld the whole day.
the H system is not as light as you would expect, either.

besides that, don't pay too much attention to what other people think about a system - it has to fit your needs.

best regrads,
marcel

jools230575 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 15, 2010, 01:22:06 pm »

I think the Hassie 200/ 2000 is a little out of my league

Looking at the Mamiya for the simple reason that I have the option of 6x4.5; 6x6 (interests me greatly) and 6x7.

I'm aware that it is a bit of a beast but then I do landscapes (Ethereal Light) so I won't be handholding the thing.

cyberean · « **Reply #7 on:** April 15, 2010, 09:03:22 pm »

Quote from: jools230575

I think the Hassie 200/ 2000 is a little out of my league

Looking at the Mamiya for the simple reason that I have the option of 6x4.5; 6x6 (interests me greatly) and 6x7.

I'm aware that it is a bit of a beast but then I do landscapes (Ethereal Light) so I won't be handholding the thing.

a Hass 2000 fc or fc/m is a very cost-effective alternative to the 200 series.
... assuming you find one whose curtain hasn't been compromised.
and all the 500/2000/200 series bodies support 6x4.5 option.
... though obviously not 6x7

Frank Doorhof · « **Reply #8 on:** April 16, 2010, 02:58:23 am »

Well I can use it handheld with the grip but I'm a big guy.
I've given it to some students and they are telling me it's way too heavy and unstable to shoot handheld for them so that was my conclusion
Good to hear that a lot are using it handheld, it's one of the best cams out there in my opinion.

patrickfransdesmet · « **Reply #9 on:** April 16, 2010, 05:34:01 am »

I use both
503 CW with winder CW and lenses 120, 80, 40
V series lenses allow for 1/2 stop changes

Mamiya RZ is completely different
I like it very much
AE finder allows 1/6 stop changes !!!
It is heavy and the grip helps a lot
I often use it for a whole day, handheld
but I am happy to release it, from time to time, hanging on the neck brace !
but you get used to it
consider it as "power building"

lenses RZ are tack sharp
too sharp for portraiture I think, hasselblad is better for this, unless you want to see all details ;-)

digital on these camera's ...
MFDB on a Hasselblad, handheld ...troublesome
difficult to focus
RZ is better in this case, but you loose much of the frame 6x7

recently, I went back to film on these beauties.(B/W and Slides)

For digital only, I would suggest to use a system that's designed for digital
Leica S2 or Hasselblad H, Mamiya/Phase 645 digital system

Lightbox · « **Reply #10 on:** April 16, 2010, 07:04:58 am »

I don't find the RZ heavy at all, sure its solid and I have shot handheld a bit, but it feels great working with an RZ on the tripod.

patrickfransdesmet · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2010, 07:29:25 am »

well all is relative ofcourse
RZ + 110mm + winder + back + AE finder + grip = +/- 5 kg ...

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