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christian_raae

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« on: April 17, 2009, 07:50:14 am »

Hi

I just wanted to share my excitement.

Got my H3d-22 II two days ago, and I´ve done two shoots with it.

OMG, this camera is really something else.

The IQ is mind blowing, and it really is a delight to work the the H3d house.

If you are considering a H3d, "just do it".

 
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 08:04:26 am »

Enjoy! I think we all remember the excitement after getting our first MFDB

What camera were you using before?
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 08:41:20 am »

Something to be said about those 22mpx 9 micron sensors. I have one but in the process of selling it the P25 Plus . I need that extra stop in the P30 plus but still wondering if it is such a great idea. I love these 22 mpx sensors. Enjoy it, the results are certainly worth it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 09:23:27 am »

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Hi

I just wanted to share my excitement.

Got my H3d-22 II two days ago, and I´ve done two shoots with it.

OMG, this camera is really something else.

The IQ is mind blowing, and it really is a delight to work the the H3d house.

If you are considering a H3d, "just do it".

 

I'd love to hear more thoughts from you... I'm in the "torn between phase and hassie" stage. I'm buying in about 2 weeks and am setting tests up with dealers... so I'll see for myself, but would love more thoughts on the 22. It's not available here, other than by ordering from denmark, so I'll actually be testing the ii-31... but am most interested in the 22.

As it stands, I'm heading towards the p25+, but the hassie seems really well suited for me as well.

thanks,
shelby
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 11:11:01 am »

I`ve used the Hbl 503 CWD before, so this is not my first DMFB.

I like the H3d because the system is seamless. The back and the house comes in one, which really makes a difference.

The IQ is breathtaking, and outperformances my CFV back.

The Mk II display is actually quite good.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 10:46:54 pm »

Congratulations on your purchase.  I agree that the quality is great.  I am shooting with an Imacon 528c model (22MP, same sensor size) and even though my back is 2-3 generations old, you can clearly see the benefits.  It is unbelievably smooth (too much I would say).  Higher resolution models seem to have some noise issues (read http://www.hasselbladusa.com/user-showcase...ten-qvale.aspx)

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 10:59:56 pm »

Congratulations on your new kit. I'm shooting a P25+ (22MP) and love it. (Same sensor as the Hassie.)

Cheers!
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2009, 11:32:00 pm »

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Congratulations on your purchase.  I agree that the quality is great.  I am shooting with an Imacon 528c model (22MP, same sensor size) and even though my back is 2-3 generations old, you can clearly see the benefits.  It is unbelievably smooth (too much I would say).  Higher resolution models seem to have some noise issues (read http://www.hasselbladusa.com/user-showcase...ten-qvale.aspx)

Best,
Evangelos
I use both system and they are comparable to each other, H3D system has the automatic lens correction which is handy but it was not something you can't do in Capture One with Phase backs, but I think Capture Pro still has very little edge over Phocus with their HDR adjustment, but otherwise I don't see a meaningful difference with either system, it will eventually be a subjective preference. And SInar/Leaf on the other hand, is also easily comparable with the 2, with Hy6 + lenses is probably the current lead in medium format system in my point of view, although many may disagree.  I think the limitation for quality is no longer digital back/camera dependent, it is the photographer himself.

Regards, K
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 12:48:49 am »

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 I think the limitation for quality is no longer digital back/camera dependent, it is the photographer himself.

Regards, K

This is the meaningful statement, appropriate to so many threads. Oh, IMO, of course.



Well said, Khun K.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 06:09:14 am »

[quote name='christian_raae' post='277050' date='Apr 17 2009, 05:20 PM']Hi

congrats! enjoy
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 06:09:59 am »

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I`ve used the Hbl 503 CWD before, so this is not my first DMFB.

I like the H3d because the system is seamless. The back and the house comes in one, which really makes a difference.

The IQ is breathtaking, and outperformances my CFV back.

The Mk II display is actually quite good.

congrats! show us some of ur sample image
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2009, 08:12:32 am »

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Something to be said about those 22mpx 9 micron sensors. I have one but in the process of selling it the P25 Plus . I need that extra stop in the P30 plus but still wondering if it is such a great idea. I love these 22 mpx sensors. Enjoy it, the results are certainly worth it.


Why not wait just a little bit longer for the P30+ replacement.
I imagine it's imminent, if only as preemptive strike against Leica S2.
BJL talked about this 40MP sensor back in late September:
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....mp;#entry225775
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2009, 08:28:09 am »

Pricing Billy not sure what it will come in at but not in a major hurry either. I still love this back and i am really only after two things ISO 1600 and just a little faster shooting speed. Frankly a D700 would do that for what those needs are for. But I really don't want a DSLR either. The S2 is a wet dream, it will be priced out of the ballpark. Even the estimates for it are too high. I also think some OEM will smoke it before it even is released. I got a dozen donut bet on that one.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2009, 08:54:01 am »

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I also think some OEM will smoke it before it even is released. I got a dozen donut bet on that one.

I wouldn't take that bet.
If anyone knows the Phase One roadmap, it's you (and Michael, too).
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2009, 09:18:12 am »

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Hi

I just wanted to share my excitement....
 

What I love about the original post is that it embodies that surge of joy, discovery and creation that we all experience the first time we picked up a good digital camera. Somehow that's gone missing. I LOVED shooting with my 10D. I tolerate my 5DII. WTF? I have a loaner HD2-39 sitting here, and all I do is grouse about the shortcomings in lens ergonomics and the impenetrability of the software....

The thing can produce insane images of higher size and quality than I'll ever need....so why am I not impregnated with joy?? Why do I sit and contemplate buying a 500C/M and a 150 sonnar on ebay to shoot some TXP?

What the heck is wrong with us?

- N.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2009, 09:36:53 am »

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What I love about the original post is that it embodies that surge of joy, discovery and creation that we all experience the first time we picked up a good digital camera. Somehow that's gone missing. I LOVED shooting with my 10D. I tolerate my 5DII. WTF? I have a loaner HD2-39 sitting here, and all I do is grouse about the shortcomings in lens ergonomics and the impenetrability of the software....

The thing can produce insane images of higher size and quality than I'll ever need....so why am I not impregnated with joy?? Why do I sit and contemplate buying a 500C/M and a 150 sonnar on ebay to shoot some TXP?

What the heck is wrong with us?

- N.

I guess digital photography made it too easy...  not too long ago, you would need to shoot 4x5 TMAX or Delta 100 to get the same quality/clarity... use a LF camera, develop your own film and watch in anticipation as you opened the tank at the end of the wash cycle to see what you got... Now you get it within a second.  It makes sense commercially, but it cheapens the whole process.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2009, 09:39:12 am »

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The thing can produce insane images of higher size and quality than I'll ever need....so why am I not impregnated with joy?? Why do I sit and contemplate buying a 500C/M and a 150 sonnar on ebay to shoot some TXP?

Do it, Nick. I have shot a fair amount of Tri-X and TMax400 recently, in Hasselblad 2000FC/M, Contax 645 and Leica M6 cameras, and it gives you a new (old?) perspective on photography. Of course I still shoot digital, and it will probably continue to be the majority of my photography, but putting a few films through a 'real' camera does connect me again.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2009, 10:22:48 am »

I have Phase/afd AND got a 500 c/m on eBay to shoot film... I got the same syndrome ..

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What I love about the original post is that it embodies that surge of joy, discovery and creation that we all experience the first time we picked up a good digital camera. Somehow that's gone missing. I LOVED shooting with my 10D. I tolerate my 5DII. WTF? I have a loaner HD2-39 sitting here, and all I do is grouse about the shortcomings in lens ergonomics and the impenetrability of the software....

The thing can produce insane images of higher size and quality than I'll ever need....so why am I not impregnated with joy?? Why do I sit and contemplate buying a 500C/M and a 150 sonnar on ebay to shoot some TXP?

What the heck is wrong with us?

- N.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2009, 03:28:59 pm »

This is from my first action shoot with the H3D.

Got a fashion shot tomorrow, can´t wait !
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2009, 05:53:34 pm »

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I guess digital photography made it too easy...  not too long ago, you would need to shoot 4x5 TMAX or Delta 100 to get the same quality/clarity... use a LF camera, develop your own film and watch in anticipation as you opened the tank at the end of the wash cycle to see what you got... Now you get it within a second.  It makes sense commercially, but it cheapens the whole process.
Technically, if we were happy with film enlarged 10*, and we are happy with digital printed at not less than 240 or 360 original camera pixels per print inch, the H3D11 - 50 is only as good as 6*9 film.

Some of us try to do more with digital than was ever possible with film, rather than "cheapening the whole process".

It would have been nice if they had:

thought about hand holding the camera any way up with one hand (for off camera flash, under-camera fill-flash, portrait)

Enabled the live video on the 50.
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