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« on: February 10, 2009, 10:47:06 am »

When I use Noiseware Pro with Lightroom my Raw file is converted to a tiff on export to PS.  Is there anyway to process in Raw  from Lightroom? Do I need to run Raw files through Noiseware before I import to LR? Is there a benefit  to processing in Noiseware as a Raw compared to a Tiff?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2009, 06:54:13 pm »

how would you run a raw file through noiseware?  it only reads cooked images so you're going to have to develop the raw in some converter no matter what and thats the first step.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 10:46:27 pm »

Max, if you plan to use Noiseware with LR, then you should process your raw file in LR with both sharpening and noise reduction within LR disabled (i.e., set all of those sliders to zero). As noted above already, Noiseware only operates on rendered pixel data.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 07:30:19 am »

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Max, if you plan to use Noiseware with LR, then you should process your raw file in LR with both sharpening and noise reduction within LR disabled (i.e., set all of those sliders to zero). As noted above already, Noiseware only operates on rendered pixel data.

I realize the level and basis of your expertise, but it seems to me that my Canon G9 raw files come out better with modest "capture sharpening" retained in ACR (same processing as LR?) followed by processing in Noiseware.   I also know that almost everyone says not to sharpen before noise reduction and this makes sense.  I've attributed my results to the nature of the capture sharpening in ACR.  

For noisy raw files, when and how should 'capture sharpening' be done?

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 07:48:39 am »

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Max, if you plan to use Noiseware with LR, then you should process your raw file in LR with both sharpening and noise reduction within LR disabled (i.e., set all of those sliders to zero). As noted above already, Noiseware only operates on rendered pixel data.

Thanks Eric, That's what I have been doing now for years. The other day I just had this fantasy that I could do it in Raw some way. Lets put it down to a "Senior Moment".  It would sure be nice if we didn't have to make the round trip to PS.  I imagine this is something you couldn't comment on.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 09:29:27 am »

You can avoid going through Photoshop if you have Noiseware standalone - set it up as an external editor in LR. Noiseware also provide droplets for specific noise recipes.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 10:10:54 am »

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The other day I just had this fantasy that I could do it in Raw some way. Lets put it down to a "Senior Moment".

Actually that's possible, but not with Adobe and most other Raw processors. They don't open up the Raw processing engine to outsiders. That said, there's Bibble that does. Noise Ninja is actually running within their Raw processing engine.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 11:19:49 am »

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Actually that's possible, but not with Adobe and most other Raw processors. They don't open up the Raw processing engine to outsiders. That said, there's Bibble that does. Noise Ninja is actually running within their Raw processing engine.
Ah , so it is possible.  I would assume, as in all things Raw, that it's a better way to do it. Is that true Andrew?
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 11:56:48 am »

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Ah , so it is possible.  I would assume, as in all things Raw, that it's a better way to do it. Is that true Andrew?

It would be ideal to do everything like this at the Raw rendering stage for a number of reasons. Now many (all?) Raw converters have control over noise. I've yet to see one that works as well as Noiseware on rendered images.
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