Leica s2

[eronald]

I saw people use it in studio. In fact I had to use it too, 20 years ago. It was considered the "cheap" solution where I had to shoot

Edmund

sorry, as good as the R line was, i have never seen or heard of a pro using it, although i am sure there are/were some because of its obvious advantages (it always comes down to the lenses with leica...)....

[heinrichvoelkel]

at the rangefinderforum is a interesting thread on some factual news regarding leica

link to rangefinder forum

Leica says, they want to sell 10.000 units per year. Even with the prices becoming lower  I was pretty sure the whole MFDB market was just 6000 units per year. I don't get their math.

Maybe dfarkas can chime in on this? And while I'm asking, is there a pro service planned, because the aim at the pro with the S2:

"Target group of the S2 are professional photographers (studio, fashion, automobile)"



Thanks in advance

[eronald]

Yes, they had planned a pro service.

However I think that the S2 is a joke if it uses the slow Kodak sensor - the whole advantage of an SLR format is speed of use with natural light off tripod, and you lose that with a slow sensor. The sensor was the greatest weakness of the M8 - who really wants to buy a Noctilux ?

Edmund

at the rangefinderforum is a interesting thread on some factual news regarding leica

link to rangefinder forum

Leica says, they want to sell 10.000 units per year. Even with the prices becoming lower  I was pretty sure the whole MFDB market was just 6000 units per year. I don't get their math.

Maybe dfarkas can chime in on this? And while I'm asking, is there a pro service planned, because the aim at the pro with the S2:

"Target group of the S2 are professional photographers (studio, fashion, automobile)"



Thanks in advance

[heinrichvoelkel]

Yes, they had planned a pro service.

Edmund

Do you have any details on that? or anybody else

[dfarkas]

at the rangefinderforum is a interesting thread on some factual news regarding leica

link to rangefinder forum

Leica says, they want to sell 10.000 units per year. Even with the prices becoming lower  I was pretty sure the whole MFDB market was just 6000 units per year. I don't get their math.

Maybe dfarkas can chime in on this? And while I'm asking, is there a pro service planned, because the aim at the pro with the S2:

"Target group of the S2 are professional photographers (studio, fashion, automobile)"



Thanks in advance

This is a misquote. Stefan Daniel said that Leica estimates the entire MF market to be about 10,000 units per year. They expect to have a double-digit share of this. So, if Leica was able to capture a 10% market share (min double-digit), they'd expect to sell 1,000 units per year, at 20% they'd sell 2,000, etc. These numbers are more where Leica expects to be.  

Pro service has been planned from the beginning. We should have details on this before the end of the month, along with system pricing.

David

[Nemo]

Yes, they had planned a pro service.

However I think that the S2 is a joke if it uses the slow Kodak sensor - the whole advantage of an SLR format is speed of use with natural light off tripod, and you lose that with a slow sensor. The sensor was the greatest weakness of the M8 - who really wants to buy a Noctilux ?

Edmund

It is a new generation CCD made by Kodak. It has 4 channels for data transfering (out of the sensor) and more electronic components attached to the sensor. In some sense, CMOS (back-illuminated designs) and CCDs are converging...

[Christopher]

It is a new generation CCD made by Kodak. It has 4 channels for data transfering (out of the sensor) and more electronic components attached to the sensor. In some sense, CMOS (back-illuminated designs) and CCDs are converging...

And soon is two years old.

[georgl]

"Soon" would mean then over 14 months...

[Kitty]

Yes, they had planned a pro service.

However I think that the S2 is a joke if it uses the slow Kodak sensor - the whole advantage of an SLR format is speed of use with natural light off tripod, and you lose that with a slow sensor. The sensor was the greatest weakness of the M8 - who really wants to buy a Noctilux ?

Edmund

So far Kodak CCD sensor is not slow. It is faster than Dalsa. Unless you are talking about faster CMOS sensor.
And I really agree with JR that Leica should focus on M8 first.