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Josef Isayo

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Hassy F lenses on 500 bodies?
« on: October 10, 2008, 10:39:55 am »

Are there any adaptors that will allow Hassy F lenses to be mounted on 500 bodies?
How about on a Contax 645?

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Hassy F lenses on 500 bodies?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2008, 10:48:47 am »

Quote from: Josef Isayo
Are there any adaptors that will allow Hassy F lenses to be mounted on 500 bodies?
How about on a Contax 645?

The key here: you need a shutter somewhere. The 203 Hasselblad and the Contax 645 are focal plane shutter designs -- the shutter is in the body. So you can use (shutterless) 200 lenses on Mamiya 645, Contax 645, and 200 series Hasselblad.

Contact Son Minh Pham for adapters for Contax. He makes them. There are others too.

The 500 series Hasselblad has no shutter in the body, so that means, with no shutter in the lenses too, then it's not possible.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 10:50:50 am »

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Are there any adaptors that will allow Hassy F lenses to be mounted on 500 bodies?
How about on a Contax 645?

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The MAM -1 Hasselblad lens to Contax 645 Adapter will do the trick on the Contax 645.
PhaseOne/Mamiya have the HB adapter for the 645AF series of cameras.

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Hassy F lenses on 500 bodies?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 11:53:12 am »

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The key here: you need a shutter somewhere. The 203 Hasselblad and the Contax 645 are focal plane shutter designs -- the shutter is in the body. So you can use (shutterless) 200 lenses on Mamiya 645, Contax 645, and 200 series Hasselblad.

Contact Son Minh Pham for adapters for Contax. He makes them. There are others too.

The 500 series Hasselblad has no shutter in the body, so that means, with no shutter in the lenses too, then it's not possible.


Actually contact Son for anything you need that is off the wall, or esoteric.  He has it all, if he doesn't he can find it, o rmake it and I just bought another 110 F2 from him because mine just packed up.

Son is great and works like camera stores use to in the fact you can talk to a real person, he stands by what he sells, he loves photography gear and he doesn't have any contractual agreements to keep him from telling the truth.

You don't see that anymore and if I didn't think the Camera world was such a mess, I would fund him to start his own store.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 04:47:59 pm »

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The 500 series Hasselblad has no shutter in the body, so that means, with no shutter in the lenses too, then it's not possible.


Hmmm....

Actually there is a flap that is a lot like a shutter in 500 series bodies.  F series lenses work on 500 series bodies but with lots of limitations.  "The flap" is there to prevent film/sensor exposure before the lens shutter exposure.  It flips up about just after the mirror as part of the mechanical gymnastics of an 500## exposure cycle.  "The flap" works as a very rough shutter timed by how fast you can let go of the shutter release. With flash/strobe, sync'ed via the camera body PC connection, in low ambient light, it all works fine.  With continuous light a 'bulb' exposure of a few seconds, using a cable release, smooths out the exposure– "the flap" doesn't uncover the film/sensor at an even rate during the 1/60th+ of a second or so it takes to open and close.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 05:26:22 pm »

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Actually there is a flap that is a lot like a shutter in 500 series bodies.  F series lenses work on 500 series bodies but with lots of limitations.  "The flap" is there to prevent film/sensor exposure before the lens shutter exposure.  It flips up about just after the mirror as part of the mechanical gymnastics of an 500## exposure cycle.  "The flap" works as a very rough shutter timed by how fast you can let go of the shutter release. With flash/strobe, sync'ed via the camera body PC connection, in low ambient light, it all works fine.  With continuous light a 'bulb' exposure of a few seconds, using a cable release, smooths out the exposure– "the flap" doesn't uncover the film/sensor at an even rate during the 1/60th+ of a second or so it takes to open and close.

Hmm. OK, why don't you take your best client, in this economy, with a nice-fee job on the line, and mount up a 200 series lens onto your 500 series body, and shoot that job that way, and then report back here how it went.

You are honestly advising the original questioner to do this?

Just because something works in theory doesn't exactly mean you ought to do it in the real world.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 11:05:17 pm »

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<snip> then report back here how it went.

Just because something works in theory doesn't exactly mean you ought to do it in the real world.

Sadly we stopped using 'blads five or six years ago–it was like burying someone you've known for 20 years.  Before that 'F lens + 500 body' was useful for in-camera composite, multi-setup shots.  We had one 2000 body and three 500's so this was a way to use the 110mm f2 without additional 2000 bodies.  Works fine.  

Photoshop and digital make in-camera composites unnecessary.  But shooting in studio, or doing long exposure location, if a 120mm C# lens shutter died, there's no problem substituting a 110mm F.  I reckon a professional photographer delivers the shot no matter what; it's one reason clients pay us the big bucks!

Thanks for asking.  

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