Why start a thread about a RED film camera? It's not medium format. In fact it's a very different beast. People who think this will replace still cameras for more than a few niche purposes are kidding themselves.
I had a look at the Mysterium specs and as far as I can tell you get:
- a very wide aspect ratio, nearly 2:1
- no control whatsoever over exposure time
- no variable ISO setting
- zero compatibility with flash
- serious power requirements if you want use continuous lighting on location
- no used market for cheap parts or lenses
- only 12 MP
- less dynamic range than MFDB
(if I'm wrong about any of these please show us all a link with more info)
All for $17,500, and that's just the body.
If anyone else introduced a camera with a fixed ISO setting and a fixed shutter speed at this price and resolution, the forum would trash it immediately, and rightly so.
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Careful, you have missed a few important facts here. Do some more research and carry an attitude that serves your knowledge. This is not up to your usual standards which are very good. However the RED one is correctly not a medium format camera and another forum for this kind of post exists on LL.
This whole news story is not about the RED ONE camera which you quote tech specs from, it carries the 1.gen red sensor ("Mysterium"). This is about the 3. generation sensor (3.gen is "Mysterium - Monstro", 2. gen is called "Mysterium - X") not even off the drawing board yet (or it could be in prototype/engineering sample state for all I know). RED is announcing way ahead on new products, not the usuall 2-3 months Canon or Phase is.
The rest is based on both facts and speculation, but not from my side - its from the common speculation on the red and scarlet forums so don't hang me for this. Go post at reduser.com
About your specs:
- It will have a very wide aspect ratio, although it might not be as wide as you indicate - this is a long story you need to read long postings on this topic to get the details. No hard facts on this one, but not one supporting that they will keep 2:1 either.
- Exposure time is fully controllable on the RED One and will be for all future cameras, where did you get this from?
- ISO is just as variable as on any other MFDB without analogue gain or with similar pre A/D converter circuitry. Same concept, RED is simply honest about it - can't say that for the MFDB makers on this topic. ISO is a meta data component as it is on my Leaf. You might dial in ISO of your wish though, and it will affect metering and preview.
- Flash compatibility is directly supported from the RED Scarlet and onwards, by rumours as Scarlet isn't out of the works yet. How this flash sync will work is beyond me as it isn't much available on that. Anyway you can get some 3.party gadgets and you can have strobe sync for every frame if you wish to. It uses the genlock capabilities for the sync. You will need a studio type flash with long controllable burn time as they employ an electronic shutter and that causes issues with flash, without genlock its impossible - with it requires a long burn time. So no motion freeze from the flash, it will have to be shutter freeze. (This was all about RED One and Scarlet) But when Jim Jannard announces a future camera for stills he will again deliver a product made for its purpose and flash capabilities will be in it, or he won't sell any of them. Simple logic.
- Serious power has to do with the choice of lighting and the fact you shoot moving image, I use continuous lighting sometimes for stills and always for video and several other photographers in my local town do that occasionally, specially for wedding photos - nothing new here. But before this dSLR is out of the works - LED lighting fixtures will be both mainstream and more costeffective - today they are just mainstream but expensive as h#ll. But serious power will be needed.
- Support for Canon and Nikon mounts is already in place - how much more common than that do you need to be? The Zeiss ZF mount lenses are excellent for the RED One.
- The 2.gen sensor is rumoured to be 25MPx, the 3.gen most probably will be at least that.
- Dynamic range for 1.gen is 66dB, DR is one of their main focuses. The 3. gen is promised to be better than the 2. gen which is promised to be better than the 1.gen. How many dB they end up on is unsure - but it will be pretty close to the MFDB 70dB+ or more if one is to believe the hype from RED itself.
- the price for RED One is 17.500$ - EPIC with 2.gen sensor, although with 1 free upgrade to 3.gen sensor, is 40k$ How much the dSLR style 3.gen camera will be is pure speculation, but until now RED has beaten down all established pricing regimes in its industry, so time will tell.
All I base this on is my focus on this company and the RED supported forums. But there is nothing pointing to the facts you present for the announced future dSLR, the specs you wrote is for teh RED One camera - a motion film camera which is in use today and there is 2800 units out there as we speak and they claim they might catch up with the backorder in january totalling about 4100++ units, this is not a lot in stills photo terms, but hell of alot in digital motion film terms.
Timescale for the dSLR is likely years from now though, so don't get all exited about it. Imagine what the latest 3 years have brought us and extrapolate that to other manufacturers and this isn't that revolutionary.
The links you ask for is all at reduser.com or scarletuser.com , but you have to back up your statements first to prove your statements here.
Don't kill the messenger, you had your cowboy hat on in this thread not me. And we should continue this is teh correct forum.
MHO
Robin Balas