Topic: Leaf profiles for architecture (Color look) (Read 4415 times)

Edmund Sumner · « **on:** May 24, 2009, 04:02:26 pm »

Hello All

I wonder if anyone can offer some advice here

I shoot architecture on a leaf aptus with Arca swiss kit

This works fine and no major problems just wondering if anyone has any strong feelings on color profiles for architecture

I tend to use product 4

can anyone offer any advice on profiles for architecture ?

does anyone specialse in creating bespoke profiles for photographers in specific areas

or know anyone in UK offering training in leaf processing ?

best

Edmund
www.edmundsumner.co.uk

arashm · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2009, 04:32:28 pm »

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archivue · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2009, 06:01:00 pm »

did you try product 5 ?

Edmund Sumner · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2009, 07:18:31 pm »

Quote from: John-S

The best color I have seen with my Aptus 22 with many different types of content is from using Portrait Even 5. Don't be fooled by the names of the profiles, I think they are misleading and add no value. Some profiles go too warm, some just look "off color" like a bad processed film, and some too much punch. No different than the bad sharpening presets. The sharpening is so aggressive and halo-like by Leaf's default presets.

With the most recent LC release, 11.2.6 maybe, I know the profiles all have new names and no idea what the new name equivalent for the P. E. 5. is just from my head. Not at the studio today.

you put your finger on it

some images do indeed look some just look "off color" like a bad processed

which would you say is most neutral ?

E

Rick_Allen · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:51:35 am »

I find that AdobeRGB profile is best for most situations. I find most of the profiles either need to be very neutral or dont love mixed lighting.

free1000 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 26, 2009, 11:09:30 am »

I make my own profile and apply it inside Adobe Lightroom using the free software

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_P..._Profile_Editor

This is inexpensive to do as you simply need an XRite colour checker card which you shoot as the input. There is another step necessary with .mos files, let me know if you want the gory detail.

My personal philosophy is to bring the cleanest, most natural input into my Lightroom library, then to apply my colour looks having 'frozen' the clean/base colour into the first import into Lightroom.

This gives you a clean colour input, that can be used for applying the lightroom looks.

I only use Leaf Capture for capturing images, applying any gain correction and compression prior to bringing them into the Lightroom library. In emergencies I use it for moire reduction. IMHO, if you are using Leaf Capture for processing and adding final colour appearance you are not making the most of your files. In particular I don't like what it does to detail and prefer either Lightroon or Raw Developer (iridientdigital.com) for final rendering of critical work.

fmo · « **Reply #6 on:** May 26, 2009, 02:36:40 pm »

Quote from: free1000

I make my own profile and apply it inside Adobe Lightroom using the free software

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_P..._Profile_Editor

This is inexpensive to do as you simply need an XRite colour checker card which you shoot as the input. There is another step necessary with .mos files, let me know if you want the gory detail.

My personal philosophy is to bring the cleanest, most natural input into my Lightroom library, then to apply my colour looks having 'frozen' the clean/base colour into the first import into Lightroom.

This gives you a clean colour input, that can be used for applying the lightroom looks.

I only use Leaf Capture for capturing images, applying any gain correction and compression prior to bringing them into the Lightroom library. In emergencies I use it for moire reduction. IMHO, if you are using Leaf Capture for processing and adding final colour appearance you are not making the most of your files. In particular I don't like what it does to detail and prefer either Lightroon or Raw Developer (iridientdigital.com) for final rendering of critical work.

I would very much like to learn more details about the Leaf Capture / Lightroom workflow and the colorprofiling / .mos issues. Any further information highly appreciated. Thank you!

lonna.tucker · « **Reply #7 on:** May 26, 2009, 05:06:16 pm »

Hi Edmund,

First, make sure you have downloaded the latest version 11.2.4 or 11.2.6 depending on your DB.

Then try under the Adjust tab:
1) white balance your reference frame
2) choose Product for Curve, then adjust brightness if needed
3) choose Product 4 for Color (look)
4) under Grain, if your exposures were long, check the box and adjust grain a bit to reduce some noise
5) keep sharpening off, I sharpen later in photoshop with a low radius around .3 and a hgher amount 250-350% on a layer set to luminosity.

You will get good results this way.

I have used Raw Developer for the last few years and it is powerful.
However, LC11.2 is very much improved and I'm liking it much better.

ericstaud · « **Reply #8 on:** May 26, 2009, 05:31:31 pm »

Edmund, what camera/lenses are you using? Are you using the Custom Gain adjuster? It is possible you might be experiencing some color shift that is making it difficult to color balance your images.

Doug Peterson · « **Reply #9 on:** May 26, 2009, 05:43:23 pm »

Quote from: ericstaud

Edmund, what camera/lenses are you using? Are you using the Custom Gain adjuster? It is possible you might be experiencing some color shift that is making it difficult to color balance your images.

Subtle lens cast can be hard to see at first. Eric makes a very good point to bring it up. I would shoot a clean white surface or ideally shoot through clean white plexi to see if there is any cast.

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roskav · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2009, 04:52:52 am »

With Leaf profiles I think that the Portrait set of looks tend to render timber very red.. which is hard to adjust without affecting the rest of the image negatively. I also use product 4 ... quite neutral and does blue skys quite well.

Ros

Edmund Sumner · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2009, 11:30:29 am »

Quote from: Roskav

With Leaf profiles I think that the Portrait set of looks tend to render timber very red.. which is hard to adjust without affecting the rest of the image negatively. I also use product 4 ... quite neutral and does blue skys quite well.

Ros

Thanks Ros

yes Product 4 seems to be the best

I guess maybe a little more tweaking needed

best

Edmund

www.edmundsumner.co.uk

AndreNapier · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2009, 03:22:57 pm »

I shoot people only but also use Product 4. It seems to have the least negative influence on color adjustment in PS. I absolutely dislike all Portrait profiles on Leaf.
Andre

papa v2.0 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2009, 04:50:29 pm »

hi Edmund

I might be able to help you out here in the UK

PM me and ill send you my email address and we can discuss custom profiles. I have a lot of expertise in tis area. Leaf training also.

Edmund Sumner · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:33:34 am »

Quote from: papa v2.0

hi Edmund

I might be able to help you out here in the UK

PM me and ill send you my email address and we can discuss custom profiles. I have a lot of expertise in tis area. Leaf training also.

sure sounds good

could you e-mail me at

edmund@edmundsumner.co.uk

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