You know, jjj, I started to write that I....respectfully....disagree. But upon further consideration, I'm gonna give you a point. File>import seems to have a certain level of acceptance in our industry. It is by no means universal, though. On that level, anything other would appear alien I suppose. There is a File>import in Phocus, but thus far, it has been greyed out in my use of the program. Perhaps someone has seen it enabled? Or maybe File>import is in place, awaiting activation in Phocus 1.1 for some reason.
I'm going to open my perspective and say that seeing files on a cf card in the program show up and not being able to do anything with them without reading the manual has....some merit. Is it a sin? I don't know. Maybe it could be more intuitive. But now that you know, I don't see the big deal. I don't feel it means the program is poorly thought out - hardly the case. And, it's version 1.0. It's a start, and I feel it's a very good start. Some pretty considerable programs that are now considered smooth running machines fared about the same on V1.0 releases.
And yes, I did bother to read your post. Since the item you site is not actually missing from the manual, I think it's logical to presume you haven't read it.
Steve Hendrix
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The fine distinction that jjj is attempting to make is that the manual details the importing of 3FR files from the original storage device (CF card or Image Bank) into Phocus, but does not specify that 3FR files simply copied to the hard drive also need to be imported into Phocus. To quote jjj...
"and as that page of manual is about importing files to your machine [which is what you would expect] from an card/camera/imagebank and does not mention anything about importing images
already on your computer, it simply illustrates my point".
This is what the manual states in big bold type under the even bigger and bolder header title of IMPORTING CAPTURES...
"Imported captures appear in the Thumbnail Browser as 3FR files for browsing. Selected files are then converted and stored as 3F files for editing and export." This is all contained in the large header for the page and is followed in the body with..."To import captures from a camera / CF card reader / ImageBank-II, proceed as follows:".
Since hard drive is not in the list, jjj assumes that for some reason the 3FR files that were copied over to the hard drive from the CF card no longer need to be imported into Phocus. He tries to make this appear logical with
"that page of manual is about importing files to your machine [which is what you would expect]". The only problem is there is absolutely no logic whatever to his assertion or assumption. Let me explain: 1) Why do you need to "import" "files to your machine" when they have already been copied from the CF card to the hard drive?
They don't need to be "imported" to your hard drive if they are already there. So... 2)
The Phocus manual is referring to importing compressed 3FR files into Phocus for editing as uncompressed 3F files. No special software is required to copy image files or any other document files to a hard drive. That is an operating system function and anyone with passing familiarity with using a computer knows this. But...3) jjj insists that this "is what you would expect." Well no, I don't think this is what would be expected and I'm surprised that jjj wants us to believe that is what he assumed. Because... 4) jjj is a fan of Lightroom. Lightroom also has an import function.
It is used to import images into Lightroom--not to import images to the hard drive. The Lightroom manual chapter on importing starts with "Importing photos into the Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom™ library is the first step in working with your photos. You can import photos directly from a camera, memory card reader, or other storage device." So... 5) What is the basis for jjj to claim "that page of manual is about importing files to your machine [which is what you would expect]"? The manual says "Phocus will import the selected files and process them into 3F files (thumbnails now lose the 3FR icon), automatically storing them in the selected folder" and "Imported captures appear in the Thumbnail Browser as 3FR files for browsing. Selected files are then converted and stored as 3F files for editing and export". Seems pretty clear to me that "import" in Phocus or Lightroom refer to importing images into the program and not the copying of images to the hard drive.
I really don't have any more time available for this now. I don't mind discussing and debating at some length with people that have put forth some effort to learn something about the topic of discussion, but doing it with someone that has glossed over a subject can be pretty tiring and boring.
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