Majority prefer Apple's Aperture

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

Are you saying that some people still haven't seen the light and migrated to OSX?

Cheers,
Bernard
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Actually, as a long-time Windows user I still strongly believe that Micro$oft's last OS that was ready for market was DOS 5.0. And once M$ started ripping off ideas from the Mac, Apple seems to have started returning the favor by borrowing M$'s habit of letting buying customers do the alpha-testing (note the numerous complaints on the LL forum from those that can't get the latest pussycat from Apple to work with various Adobe products).

Unfortunately, I can't run Photoshop on DOS 5.0, so I have to resort to Windows XP (which is almost ready for Beta testing).

Cheers,
Eric

[jjj]

You mention better systemwide integration of Aperture.  Now that's certainly a valuable aspect and one that has way more value than the poll.  [a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=177109\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Now hasn't that actually been a major problem with Aperture? New camera updates, rely on OS updates, I believe.
 And integration with Adobe apps may be more important. That said LR is not as good as it should be there. Noticably absent from  CS3.

[john beardsworth]

You'd be surprised how few Aperture users know iLife integration exists or bother using it. I recently helped two Aperture users move to Lightroom and as an aside one asked me about making DVD's. They were really surprised when I showed iDVD reading Aperture previews, so afterwards I asked around. It was mainly "didn't know" and "no need", but I also got two "too consumer" answers from people who had more pro requirements.

John

[BernardLanguillier]

And once M$ started ripping off ideas from the Mac, Apple seems to have started returning the favor by borrowing M$'s habit of letting buying customers do the alpha-testing

Unfortunately, I can't run Photoshop on DOS 5.0, so I have to resort to Windows XP (which is almost ready for Beta testing).
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I do use XP extensively at work and MS is a very close business partner of ours... I feel that someone has been following me since I posted last night... I am sending this email from a deserted phone booth in a back alley of shanghai... they are close now... arhgg...

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

I do use XP extensively at work and MS is a very close business partner of ours... I feel that someone has been following me since I posted last night... I am sending this email from a deserted phone booth in a back alley of shanghai... they are close now... arhgg...
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Quick, Bernard! Send all your photographs to me before MS catches you!  

[Philmar]

I don't know if the poll results are skewed. Maybe Apple's website increased the number of respondents but that doesn't prove they skewed the results. Maybe 63% of those people also prefer Aperture.

Well who here DOES prefer Lightroom over Aperture, and why? And if responding, please disclose any ties to Apple or Adobe.

[Graeme Nattress]

I do a lot of work with Apple.

I'm preferring the image quality on Aperture. I'm finding the demosaic is superior - the quality of the noise floor nicer.

Graeme

[jerryrock]

Pollster defends his poll:

http://www.news.com/5208-13580_3-0.html?fo...essageID=381872

[mistybreeze]

Golly gee, I wonder...is CNET increasing ad fees as they create worthless drama-drag polls (and articles in their defense) which certainly boost hit numbers to their site?

I think competition is good for everyone, especially for photographers. But when it comes to photography and RAW processing, my vote will always be with Adobe.

[Farmer]

And yet the difference in the ratio has been less than 0.5% for several days and some 10,000 votes.  Statistically unusual, to say the least :-)

[john beardsworth]

Pollster defends his poll:

http://www.news.com/5208-13580_3-0.html?fo...essageID=381872
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By saying "the greater ballot-stuffing threat is that somebody partisan with a high profile posts a link and all his or her pals/followers/fanboys pile onto the bandwagon."

[EricWHiss]

Did any get their Apple store coupons yet?    



Just kidding.


Actually there is a sort of poll going on here at LL. Anyone take a look at how many posts and views in the Lightroom forum section vs the Aperture forum section.  Sure seems like there is a huge percentage more LR users looking at the stats here.

[john beardsworth]

Actually there is a sort of poll going on here at LL. Anyone take a look at how many posts and views in the Lightroom forum section vs the Aperture forum section.  Sure seems like there is a huge percentage more LR users looking at the stats here.
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No no Eric, don't you know all those LR posts don't count? It's well known the LL forum is stuffed full of PC users, isn't it?

[Philmar]

If Apple's posting a link to the Cnet poll on their startpage is possibly skewing the results, wouldn't Jeff's posting of the Cnet poll to Photoshopnews.com result in a 'counter'skew?

[john beardsworth]

No. Why?

[Philmar]

No. Why?
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hmmm, haven't had me mornin' coffee yet but wouldn't Lightroom users be more likely than Aperture users to be on the photoshopnews website?

[digitaldog]

hmmm, haven't had me mornin' coffee yet but wouldn't Lightroom users be more likely than Aperture users to be on the photoshopnews website?
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Well it's not too much a stretch to suggest that Lightroom users are more likely than Aperture users to be on the Lightroomnews website but Photoshopnews? Maybe, maybe not. PSN posts stories about Aperture when there's something news worthy to post.

Its not at all a stretch to believe that CNET gets a lot more hits in one day then PSN.

[john beardsworth]

hmmm, haven't had me mornin' coffee yet but wouldn't Lightroom users be more likely than Aperture users to be on the photoshopnews website?
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So Jeff's site has the reach of Apple's home page then? Apart from that, his posting did question the poll's very validity, not exactly encouraging those who prefer Lightroom to vote (unlike at AUPN). And come on, we all know what fanboys are like - the result's as skewed as announcing the election only on Fox, disenfranchising the PC-using majority, and then Fox calling the result based on their own early exit polls. Why would Lightroom users even bother?

[jerryrock]

So Jeff's site has the reach of Apple's home page then? Apart from that, his posting did question the poll's very validity, not exactly encouraging those who prefer Lightroom to vote (unlike at AUPN). And come on, we all know what fanboys are like - the result's as skewed as announcing the election only on Fox, disenfranchising the PC-using majority, and then Fox calling the result based on their own early exit polls. Why would Lightroom users even bother?
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Using your logic, why would Jeff even bother?

As I mentioned before, it all boils down to the almighty dollar. The only true measure would be in the number of units sold of each software package.

Jerry

[Philmar]

Can only speak to my experience. I've been to Jeff's site many many times. NEVER been to the Apple site.
But I fullheartedly agree with you about the open poll not being a reliable or valid measure. The population wasn't randomly selected so it was unreliable and unvalid from the start, regardless of whether it was trumpted on the Apple site.