Mr. Leonard said,
"Saying 'Well gee,' or that the other points are 'nonsense' are not insults. They are my opinions."
Well, actually, what is nonsense is your belief that saying “well gee” is an opinion. It is not an opinion at all; it is nothing but needless sarcasm, which is insulting. Further, your belief that what I said is “nonsense” is also insulting.
Mr. Leonard said,
"I was obvious l was being sarcastic to the fact that Canon is the biggest camera brand name.Calling me by a slang name is insulting however(lenny),and you started that."
Your entire demeanor has been sarcastic from the outset, and there was really no reason for you to conduct yourself in this fashion. My calling you ‘Lenny’ was merely my attempt to join you in the sarcastic, insulting climate you created. Originally, I had only sought clarification on why you felt a Johnny-come-lately camera like the LX2 could be “the leader” in a segment when it was (in point of fact) the follower. And you still have yet to grasp this distinction.
Mr. Leonard said,
"As well as derogatory statements about my spelling (my kybrd on the laptop is crapped out fyi). I have nothing at all to apologise for."
So you’re blaming your poor spelling on your “keyboard” eh? I guess it must have some unseen phantom magnetic forces which make your fingers repeatedly punch the wrong letters then … is that what you’re claiming here?
Mr. Leonard said,
"Im not even sure what your point is...other than that you love the G9..You made no comparisons at all. All you said is it was a leader."
You have your understanding of the world exactly backwards, sir.
You made the statement that the LX2 “was SO clearly the leader” amongst the advanced P&S segment, and I merely asked how you felt this was possible. Leadership has to do with originality and who was first to come up with ideas. Canon was the first to come out with RAW in the P&S segment, just as it was first to come out with a FF DSLR. This makes Canon the leader, by definition.
You simply don’t have a correct understanding of what “leadership” is, in precisely the same fashion you can’t spell half the words you use correctly either. This would not be a problem for me, except that when you come off as arrogant and sarcastic as you have come off to me, it makes it awfully hard to resist the temptation to verbally tear you to pieces.
Mr. Leonard said,
"Well...a "leader" obviously means something different to you than it does to me. The ‘leader’ of all the P&S digi's to ME is the LX2."
Leadership means only one thing: first and at the forefront, and the LX2 is neither of these things. It is a very good camera I am sure, but it “leads the pack” in nothing (except perhaps a 16:9 ratio). Therefore, what you have is not only a problem in spelling your words, but you have a problem in understanding what words mean.
Mr. Leonard said,
"Im glad that itgets scant attention though...It helps my friends and those Isuggest it to get it cheap."
Again, getting scant attention is not exactly the mark of Leadership …
Mr. Leonard said,
"TOP reasons it is BETTER than the Canon g9"
First of all, “better” does not necessarily mean a camera is The Leader. The new Nikon D3 may in fact be a “better” camera than the Canon 5D, but this does not change the fact Canon was the leader in providing the consumer with a FF DSLR option. Nikon may eventually create a camera that eclipses the 1DsMKIII in 21 mp resolution, but that still doesn’t change the fact Canon was the leader in breaking the 21 mp barrier in a DSLR to begin with.
Canon is still the leader. Canon is still “The Standard” to which all of the others are compared. In many cases, Canon is both the leader on top of which they have a better product. In some cases however, certain companies may offer certain products that may “technically” be better than the Canon equivalent, but that doesn’t change the fact that Canon is the leader and that the other companies are following in their footsteps.
And finally, the Panasonic LX2 is “better” than the Canon G9 at virtually nothing. In fact, let’s examine some of your claims about the LX2 being “better”:
Mr. Leonard said,
"-costs less"
Well, the Lx2 costs only $100 less than the G9, and it gives you less too: only a 4x zoom instead of 6x, only 10.2 mp instead of 12.1, not as many features, inferior image quality, etc., etc.
Mr. Leonard said,
"-shoots wide angle (28mm)"
Yeah, OK, but the flipside to that is the LX2 only goes up to a 4x zoom (112mm) whereas the Powershot G9 goes all the way to a 6x zoom (210mm). This means the Powershot G9 offers almost a 100mm zoom advantage over the LX2. By contrast, even on the low end, the LX2’s 28 mm low is only a 7 mm “wide” advantage over the G9’s low of 35 mm. So who really gives a full and functional range advantage in the P&S segment?
Mr. Leonard said,
"-has all features you need (full manual) and highlight warning plus 2 IS modes"
Um, well, the G9 has 25 shooting modes, 9 WB modes, so here again the LX2 falls short of the G9's range of features.
Mr. Leonard said,
"-fits in a pocket"
OK, this is a slight advantage for some people, but my view is that if you have a belt case for your G9, and can carry it on your hip, what is the difference, really?
Mr. Leonard said,
"-shoots 16:9 aspect ratio (very nice widescreen framing)"
The LX2 has more 16:9 options, this is true. But the G9 still carries one 16:9 photo setting of 4000 x 2248, so the G9 does have this setting, the Canon just doesn’t revolve its entire world around this ratio.
Mr. Leonard said,
"-durable (ive dropped mine a few times,no problem)"
Many cameras have been “dropped” and survived, but this doesn’t make them The Leader in durable build quality, so nice try.
Mr. Leonard said,
"-shoots raw"
Yep, the LX2 follows in the footsteps of the G-series camera line in providing RAW capability … however, the LX2 does not do so at the same level. It has inferior macro capabilities, only 10.4mp (not 12.1mp), it only has a 112 mm zoom reach (not 210 mm), and it has nowhere near the overall features and capabilities. And, regarding quickness, CnetReviews noted, “Unsurprisingly ... the LX2 always takes a fraction of a second longer than I could spare when photographing animals and children,” and because I in particular favor photographing animals (especially insects in macro), the LX2 simply does not compare as a choice for me. However, if I were wanting to shoot casual landscapes as my preference I might agree with your selection of the LX2.
Mr. Leonard said,
"-supersharp Leica lens"
Sorry, but even here the LX2 falls short of the G9. The G9 scores better in image quality, build quality, and features.
Among the so-so review comments made for the LX2’s image quality are “Generally soft photos; mediocre movies.” (CNetReviews); “Build Quality: 9.0 / Features: 8.0 / Image Quality: 7.5 … a processing engine that replaces fine detail with smeary, watercolor-like artefacts … Recommended (but with reservations).” (DPReview)
Compare this to the stellar reviews of the G9: “The Canon PowerShot G9 gets a leg up over its (competition) by improving photo quality and restoring raw-format support while maintaining the same excellent performance and body design. You probably can't miss with this model as a compact backup for your dSLR.” (CNetReviews); “Build Quality: 9.5 / Features: 9.5 / Image Quality: 8.0 … Excellent resolution and respectable edge-to-edge sharpness across the zoom range … IQ-wise the G9 is about as good as it gets in a compact camera … and physically it puts virtually everything else to shame … Highly Recommended.” (DPReview).
Mr. Leonard said,
"Buy my G9...
Will probably pickup a GX100 for its 24mm."
Thanks for your offer, but I already have a G9.
And I noticed that after all your babbling about the LX2 being the leader that even you don’t buy into your own rhetoric, as you are now switching to a GX100.
Amazing,
Jack