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« Reply #1340 on: August 07, 2008, 04:02:01 pm »

One of the core beliefs underlying progressive politics is that life is inherently political -- "the personal is political" as the saying goes. Even the most seemingly mundane choices --what clothes to wear and how to dress, where to live, what to eat, what/how/where/if to consume, what language to use, what constitutes proper aesthetic taste, what to photograph or document,  what to read, whether to have pets, whom to befriend, what leisure activities to enjoy (or even if leisure is acceptable in a world where things are so dire that any activity other than sustained political action is morally wrong)--are filled with political significance and ramifications.  

Some political movements see a very large space for autonomous human behavior; other forms of politics are genuinely hostile to the notion that there is a personal sphere beyond the reach of political considerations and the need to enforce 'correct' standards of how to live one's life. Indeed, the term 'correct' was used from the thirties onward by Progressives and progressive states (the USSR first and eventually, Cuba, China, Cambodia)  to judge personal behavior and attitude.

Certain fundamentalist religions take a similar, prescriptive view of human choice-making. The Mutaawa (Saudi religious police) have recently outlawed the sale of certain pets, for example, as leading to immoral behavior. (Flirting while dog-walking). The adherents of religious and political totalism are often genuinely distressed that others have ability to make choices with which they disagree.

So, for this reason, any forum whose members do not exhibit a similarly passionate attachment to correct behavior (as exhibited here by a photo of an automobile or a model) is fair game for unasked for condemnation, re-education and hectoring about what is moral, responsible and appropriate.

For some, the world is always in such dire straights that any activity selfishly not focused on the amelioration of horrific near-term catastrophe or sacrifice for the Common Good is morally unacceptable. Helen Caldecott's impending nuclear catastrophe--for her, it was always "eight minutes to midnight," the imminence of global famine, the SARS epidemic and other pandemics, other Malthusian crises too numerous to mention, the existence of global inequality... the list goes on. Yet, somehow, we manage to muddle through by being pragmatic, inventive and experimental. It is our very ability to 'think different', outside of regimented and prescriptive norms, that enables us to weather these storms, just as we will weather global warming without the need to condemn those who photograph automobiles or banish those who use medium format cameras to make the world appear a beautiful (nor not) place.

I will remain an interested member of this forum so long as postings are judged by relevance to the purposes for which LL forums were created rather than by adherence to some Higher Cause or someone else's political principles (of whatever stripe).

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I would if I thought we had the time. I'm reminded of David Suzuki's analogy of the frog in warm water that's slowly heated. The frog's response to the rising temperature is slower than the rise in temperature.

By the time the temperature is too hot, the frog's in delay mode and doesn't feel it.

When it eventually feels it, it's too late to escape. It's fried.
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« Reply #1341 on: August 07, 2008, 04:10:46 pm »

I bring this up every now and then because this has been the best "photography" thread on the internet in any forum I have ever seen.

So could we remember what this thread is about; and that is the posting and discussion of MFDB images.

We have managed to keep most of the other arguments out and have kept the discussion respectful. If there are discussions about politics and the curse of MFDB causing the devastation of the planet, maybe it can start another thread outside of this one.

Here in this thread we have seen some extraordinary work and have kept the attention of some top professionals. Personally I have learned a great deal from it.

So I am not going to participate in this current odd conversation that has popped up and if the rest of you avoid doing the same we can keep this thread as valuable as it has been.

Thanks
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« Reply #1342 on: August 07, 2008, 04:35:42 pm »

Way back in the early days of the Macintosh there was this amusing free application called the Talking Moose. There I'd be, merrily working way on some project, and every once in a while this Bullwinkle-like moose head would pop up on the screen, and with a high pitched semi-robotic voice it would spout some inanity. I'd stop and chuckle and then resume my work. This is how I suggest we treat Rays offerings. Worth a chuckle, but hardly a response.

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I bring this up every now and then because this has been the best "photography" thread on the internet in any forum I have ever seen.

So could we remember what this thread is about; and that is the posting and discussion of MFDB images.

We have managed to keep most of the other arguments out and have kept the discussion respectful. If there are discussions about politics and the curse of MFDB causing the devastation of the planet, maybe it can start another thread outside of this one.

Here in this thread we have seen some extraordinary work and have kept the attention of some top professionals. Personally I have learned a great deal from it.

So I am for one I am not going to participate in this current odd conversation that has popped up and if the rest of you avoid doing the same we can keep this thread as valuable as it has been.

Thanks
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« Reply #1343 on: August 07, 2008, 04:49:22 pm »

I had granola for breakfast! Does that count?
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« Reply #1344 on: August 07, 2008, 06:55:16 pm »

Have I clicked on the wrong thread ???
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« Reply #1345 on: August 07, 2008, 07:40:00 pm »

Lets all stick to posting images and commenting on those images.  Stop littering the thread with non-relevant material.
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« Reply #1346 on: August 07, 2008, 07:55:13 pm »

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Lets all stick to posting images and commenting on those images.  Stop littering the thread with non-relevant material.
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« Reply #1347 on: August 07, 2008, 08:07:45 pm »

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I now realise why I have a certain antagonism towards MFDB users. Such systems are used mainly to promote obsolete technologies that are harmful to the environment, and ourselves.

We over-eat, partly because MFDB photographers produce seductive images of succulent dishes that are no good for us; that are tasty but harmful to our health; that look ravishing but lack basic nutritional ingredients necessary for complete health.

MFDB users work mainly for the advertising industry which promotes consumption without regard to the real needs of the consumer and without regard to the environment.

When I look through the images presented in this thread, I see the promotion of blatant consumerism. I see desirable chics with a nice color balance, but a general lack of intellectual integrety in the motives and narrative.

I'm telling it as I see it. Sorry for any offense.
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« Reply #1348 on: August 07, 2008, 08:14:48 pm »

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You're a genius.
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Only if genius means idiot.
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« Reply #1349 on: August 07, 2008, 08:28:46 pm »

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Shot yesterday, very early in the morning. And for those who are concerned: I did go there by bicycle. I rarely use an automobile and I do not fly. (And for the record: no tunafish, wearing an extra sweater when it's getting cold, washing laundry at 30 degrees Celsius, never throwing away food.)

I travelled by public transport today for over six hours to shoot an assignment. A bus didn't show up when I was some 25 kilometres from my destination, where a group of people was waiting for me to be photographed. I tried to call from a public phone (don't use a cell phone either) to announce my delay, but the damn thing wouldn't take coins. Nobody at the bus station was able to borrow me a phone. When I arrived one hour late all my subjects were still patiently waiting. Mind you, all these people are working at a gas station (yeah, another concern) and most had come back from their day off to meet me. I felt I had some explaining to do to them. Gosh, trying to be an environmentally friendly photographer can be quite hard sometimes.
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On the subject of shooting by bike, this one was made by biking from my apartment over the Golden Gate Bridge and capturing this image.
P45+ Mamiya 120mm 2 vertical shot stitch.
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« Reply #1350 on: August 08, 2008, 01:13:50 am »

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On the subject of shooting by bike, this one was made by biking from my apartment over the Golden Gate Bridge and capturing this image.

Nicely done!  The cycling I mean, of course (cough, cough)  ;-)

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« Reply #1351 on: August 08, 2008, 03:38:35 am »

This one has been done yesterday. I took the Greenwheels to get there. This is a subscription where you share a car with a lot of other people. You book it when you need it and than park it back when you are done. Cars are small and pretty economic. I don't own a car and normally take the bike.

I have also lived on a boat for 2 years where I used solar energy and used rainwater for drinking, showering, cleaning etc...

I figure this is a pretty 'green' shot.
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« Reply #1352 on: August 08, 2008, 04:03:09 am »

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I just wish you could earn a living promoting green and low-carbon products....Blahblahblah

If only life were as simple as you, Ray.
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« Reply #1353 on: August 08, 2008, 04:04:52 am »

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This one has been done yesterday. I took the Greenwheels to get there. This is a subscription where you share a car with a lot of other people. You book it when you need it and than park it back when you are done. Cars are small and pretty economic. I don't own a car and normally take the bike.

I have also lived on a boat for 2 years where I used solar energy and used rainwater for drinking, showering, cleaning etc...

I figure this is a pretty 'green' shot.
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This is probably the most green shot i've seen recently. Everything gets recycled, even the model. keep up the "green" spirit Dustbak.  

 
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« Reply #1354 on: August 08, 2008, 04:21:34 am »

Here's a 'green' shot from a few months ago:

 

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(Promoting that heart attack inducing stuff known as Japanese Matcha Tea)
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« Reply #1355 on: August 08, 2008, 04:47:56 am »

Maybe we should lock him (you know who) up here... The heating is totally natural and the showers are completely free.[attachment=7826:attachment]
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« Reply #1356 on: August 08, 2008, 05:07:19 am »

Hassy H3DII-31, 28mm HC, ND and polarizer

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« Reply #1357 on: August 08, 2008, 05:34:21 am »

Wow Mark and Stewart.
Lovely shots.

Especially the water and the old wooden house, wonderful.
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« Reply #1358 on: August 08, 2008, 05:43:52 am »

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Wow Mark and Stewart.
Lovely shots.

Especially the water and the old wooden house, wonderful.
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Thanks, Frank. Sadly, I prefer Mark's to mine!
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« Reply #1359 on: August 08, 2008, 09:45:54 am »

Back to photography. Please.

Any further political or insulting postings in this thread will be deleted and the poster will likely be banned.

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