Do you hate HDR too?

Started by Neil Hunt, November 04, 2007, 06:18:09 pm

Neil Hunt

OK slightly pejorative title, but I've recently been looking around at a few other forums, especially ones for people new or newish to photography (was going to name them but am chickening out). I have to say most of the HDR shots posted on this site, whilst not always my thing, are for the most part technically competent and at the more subtle end of the genre - but really there are some seriously ugly images being produced out there!

Photomatrix and the saturation slider are certainly a killer combination in the wrong hands!

Neil.
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Kagetsu

Not particularly... HDR is a buzz technique for the moment, and I'm sure there are many people who've dabbled in it at some point who are working with a digital workflow.

It's similar in my opinion, to other techniques of photography we've already become accustomed to. Not so much in final result, but more so in progression of style.

sergiojaenlara

I am with you. HDR is a good way to improve some photos but people use to destroy them using this technique.
I prefer exposure blending in order to obtain more natural images.
If I use HDR then i put the hdr results in a layer  and then apply a mask to it.

Monito

November 05, 2007, 10:37:41 am #3 Last Edit: November 05, 2007, 10:38:18 am by Monito
No, I don't hate HDR, quite the contrary.

Do not judge a technique by the worst examples, judge it by the best examples.

Rob C

HDR? Is this some new hormone replacement therapy?

Rob C

Kagetsu

QuoteHDR? Is this some new hormone replacement therapy?

Rob C
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Refers to 'high dynamic range'... The 'general' technique is to try and get as much information as possible in the image and equalise it... I don't know much about it myself, haven't really used it.

I believe it's good in cases where you have a dark scene, but a bright sky, and one will either be underexposed or the other will be overexposed. The two images are blended and equalised... Someone else can probably be more specific in what's involved. '

kaelaria

I don't hate HDR - I hate the overuse that so many people are insisting on, creating the current fad of cartoony, saturated, high edge contrast crap.  Some people just don't take 'everything in moderation' to heart.

jule

QUOTE(Rob C @ Nov 6 2007, 01:29 AM)
HDR? Is this some new hormone replacement therapy?

Rob C
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QuoteRefers to 'high dynamic range'... The 'general' technique is to try and get as much information as possible in the image and equalise it... I don't know much about it myself, haven't really used it.


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I think Rob might have been having a little joke!

Julie

jjj

November 06, 2007, 04:45:28 pm #8 Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 04:46:47 pm by jjj
HDR is like any new technique such as Wee Planets, which seems to be 2007's photographic tic. As soon as someone invents/discovers a new style/technique, everyone online is asking what filter can I apply to copy thingamy's style and 10 mins later the style has been done to death and an interesting technique very, very quickly becomes boring and overused.
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Kagetsu

QuoteQUOTE(Rob C @ Nov 6 2007, 01:29 AM)
HDR? Is this some new hormone replacement therapy?

Rob C
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I think Rob might have been having a little joke!

Julie
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I realised too just after I'd posted it. ' Oh well.

Gordon Buck

Yeah, some of those HDR photos remind me of painters who use excessively bright paint or otherwise paint unrealistically -- oh, wait:  That's Art!
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Digiteyesed

QuoteSome people just don't take 'everything in moderation' to heart.


I'm a firm believer in everything in moderation. (Especially moderation.)

Hehhh.
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Neil Hunt

So having posted that, my purely personal opinion is that I hate HDR (and got more replies than bargined for), I thought I'd better go and make the effort to look for examples that seemed to utilise the potential without the downside. Could I recommend Outback Print and Outback Photo, for those who aren't aware of them. I'm not a fan of everything they do, but you've got to admire the technical ability and there are some excellent examples of how to use HDR and tonemapping to genuinely increase dynamic range of images which don't have to look HDR'd.

Perhaps my original question should have been 'do you hate HDR that tries to cram in more information than the output medium can ever hope to cope with?'
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amcinroy

November 07, 2007, 05:18:45 am #13 Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 05:22:48 am by amcinroy
QuoteI'd better go and make the effort to look for examples that seemed to utilise the potential without the downside.


Neil,

Here's some HDR work I've been doing that simply could not have been achieved through single exposure photography. There is no doubt that it is useful in extreme situations like this.

The first of these images is a 6 exposure HDR blend spanning 10 stops with a max exposure of 30 secs!  Yet the shadows are still pitch black.







Andy
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jjj

Nice caves Andy, reminds me of where I grew up too.
Also they are a good example of what HDR was originally intended for.
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Rob C

QuoteQUOTE(Rob C @ Nov 6 2007, 01:29 AM)
HDR? Is this some new hormone replacement therapy?

Rob C
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I think Rob might have been having a little joke!

Julie
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Thanks, Julie, thought I´d lost it somewhere down the line!

Neil Hunt

QuoteNeil,

Here's some HDR work I've been doing that simply could not have been achieved through single exposure photography. There is no doubt that it is useful in extreme situations like this.

The first of these images is a 6 exposure HDR blend spanning 10 stops with a max exposure of 30 secs!  Yet the shadows are still pitch black.







Andy
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That is very impressive stuff, particularly like number 3.
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Graeme Nattress

It's nice to see HDR being used to generate images that looks really really good, and you'd hardly "know" they were HDR without being told. That said, the 3rd image, which is a lovely image, does look just a touch bright in the foreground - or maybes I just like the really strong, nice contrast of the other two and in comparison it seems a tad bright. Overall though, superb images and thanks for sharing.

Graeme

DarkPenguin

Anyone tried this book on the subject?

The HDRI Handbook

KeithR

QuoteAnyone tried this book on the subject?

The HDRI Handbook
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I have the book on order and it should be delivered on the 13th.
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