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« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2007, 06:44:33 pm »

As I now realise you are using flash to display your images here's a post from Joe Weiss [the creator of Soundslides] which may be of use.

Since Flash doesn't have color management, you'll want to "Convert to Profile" and use "Generic RGB" ... before importing in SS+.

The Flash Player does not perform any color profiling, so using the generic will give best results.

I've got an older version of PS installed on this particular machine, but here's what I'm doing ...

Under "Image" > "Mode" > "Convert to Profile" ..
Then set the "Destination Space" to "Generic RGB Profile"

As for the out of focus issue that you're seeing, can you email me an example?  The most helpful example would be a link to a test slide show, and one of the images out of your projects' "raw" folder.


Though I seem to recall, not finding a 'Generic RGB' profile when I tried to solve this issue with Flash/Soundslides. Though JW uses a Mac and I was on Windows when I tried it.
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« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2007, 06:47:25 pm »

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I think you're right. I've now checked his website.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144709\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


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« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2007, 07:01:33 pm »

Hey Frode (aka "Willow"),

Sorry for the rash gender assumption.

I generally don't like flash on websites, but yours makes much better use of it than most other websites I've seen. One thing about your website bugs me a bit however. For some reason some of the images don't render properly on my usual browser, which is the excellent Norske Opera (9.23), and I have to go to Firefox (my second-place browser) to get everything working right (the fish image in "still lifes", for example, only comes up right in Firefox).

How can a good Norwegian photographer have a site that doesn't work perfectly with Opera?    

-Eric

P.S. It's true that a simple right-click doesn't let a viewer steal an image directly from your site, so a thief at least needs to know something.
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« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2007, 07:38:59 pm »

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Since Flash doesn't have color management, you'll want to "Convert to Profile" and use "Generic RGB" ... before importing in SS+.

The Flash Player does not perform any color profiling, so using the generic will give best results.

I've got an older version of PS installed on this particular machine, but here's what I'm doing ...

Under "Image" > "Mode" > "Convert to Profile" ..
Then set the "Destination Space" to "Generic RGB Profile"

As for the out of focus issue that you're seeing, can you email me an example?  The most helpful example would be a link to a test slide show, and one of the images out of your projects' "raw" folder.

[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144715\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Is this correct?

My initial thought would be that most flash sites (all we have discussed here) load .jpg files (for example...) into a part of its .swf file from somewhere on the server. This .jpg file is not embedded in the flash file and should be treated as any other bitmap object.

However, if flash does not let the profile follow the image to the browser, then the default should still be sRGB, as browsers default to this profile if they don't find any embedded. Or am I way of the mark here?

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P.S. It's true that a simple right-click doesn't let a viewer steal an image directly from your site, so a thief at least needs to know something.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=144720\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
This is exactly why I use flash. Where in my mind it would be easier to win a legal battle if a user is tech savvy and had to find code to download an image. This would make an argument like "the offending party is well aware of metadata and embedded keywords, copyrights and other linked/embedded content, thus using the image without reading and complying the embedded limited release and copyright statements is the fault of the offending party" easier for a court to follow...?

Of course, my images on my website don't have correct copyright protection embedded yet  

By the way, have you heard anything from your service provider Andre, is it the website that somehow changes the profile, converts or assigns to something other than sRGB?

-axel
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« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2007, 07:48:56 pm »

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However, if flash does not let the profile follow the image to the browser, then the default should still be sRGB, as browsers default to this profile if they don't find any embedded. Or am I way of the mark here?

My guess is that sRGB may be the default profile for JPEGs but not embedded flash objects. The browser will handle them differently.
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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2007, 03:54:59 am »

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From a legal point of view it might be a problem that you don't have copyright info embedded in your images. In Europe you will be well protected, because nobody is allowed to use your images, even if there is no copyright notice from you.
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As I said earlier in this post:

[a href=\"http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20108&view=findpost&p=144449]http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....ndpost&p=144449[/url]

the site is not "lauched" (i know its online... but...), and the images are not final. There will of course be a copyright notice like on my old site, when all is well and done.

PS: Now they are at least copyright marked with limited release in the metadata  

-axel
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