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« on: January 19, 2007, 04:39:24 pm »

My new P30 will be here on tuesday for my contax. I'm currently shooting my G4 PB 1.5gig 15" on location and am thinking of upgrading. is anybody else shooting with my current combo tethered and c1 pro.
There's alot of information out there for the MPB tethered on this site, but wondering how much faster the imac 24" 2.16gig intel with 2gig's of ram would be. i know I would need electricity for the imac, but other than that is it better for my P30???
I would love to make my current G4 PB work and spend the money on some new profoto lighting equipment!!!

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 05:03:29 pm »

if you have a 7200rpm drive in your PBg4 the capture speed might not be that much slower....everything else is not even in the same class....also the screens on the mbp is much much better, brighter with much better color....
i have posted the modbook here...which might be the ultimate tethered mac....for capture speed FWspeed and HD speed are the issues....everything else just gives you better and faster processing, working....

i just put a second 7200rpm HD in my MBP 2.33....one HD for system, one for capture,...it screams...
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 08:19:46 pm »

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if you have a 7200rpm drive in your PBg4 the capture speed might not be that much slower....everything else is not even in the same class....also the screens on the mbp is much much better, brighter with much better color....
i have posted the modbook here...which might be the ultimate tethered mac....for capture speed FWspeed and HD speed are the issues....everything else just gives you better and faster processing, working....

i just put a second 7200rpm HD in my MBP 2.33....one HD for system, one for capture,...it screams...
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the screen on my PB sucks, the color is really bad! How do you put 2 HD's in you MBP?

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 08:37:32 pm »

The screen on the MacBook Pro is MUCH better than that on the PB.

I'm also interested in how one adds a second harddrive to a MBP.  I think I read about this somewhere; does it involve sacrificing your optical drive slot and replacing it with the second harddrive?

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the screen on my PB sucks, the color is really bad! How do you put 2 HD's in you MBP?

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 01:45:16 am »

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The screen on the MacBook Pro is MUCH better than that on the PB.

I'm also interested in how one adds a second harddrive to a MBP.  I think I read about this somewhere; does it involve sacrificing your optical drive slot and replacing it with the second harddrive?
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this seems to be the product
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2007, 07:46:25 am »

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Interesting, but loss of dvd/burner is really not a option.
External FW800 hardrive anyone?
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2007, 12:32:03 pm »

i rarely use my internal burner and have a lacie FW portable lightscribe burner if i need one right away...the mce is the only option to add a second drive as far as i know....
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2007, 01:24:54 pm »

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i rarely use my internal burner and have a lacie FW portable lightscribe burner if i need one right away...the mce is the only option to add a second drive as far as i know....
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Paul,

I am like you. I never use the burner on a laptop. I could live without it.

In what ways to do know for sure that the second drive speeds up your MacBookPro? Do you see it in terms of the tethered capturing with CaptureOne with the Phase back?

I would just like to know exactly where you see the performance increase, that would warrant going to those lengths.

Does the addition of this second drive void the Apple warranty?

Thank you.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2007, 01:29:57 pm »

Mark,
Didn't you at one time try the imac thing teathered on location??? I'm just looking for the best solution to move to from my G4 PB with my new mfdb. My dealer is telling me that my G4 PB is fast enough, but I'm thinking it isn't.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2007, 02:20:03 pm »

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Didn't you at one time try the imac thing teathered on location??? I'm just looking for the best solution to move to from my G4 PB with my new mfdb. My dealer is telling me that my G4 PB is fast enough, but I'm thinking it isn't.
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The Imac worked fine, in terms of speed. But I'm no fan of being dependent on finding 110v wherever I happen to want to shoot a picture. Also dislike the whole "separate keyboard" approach with the imac, over the MacBookPro. I need things very simple, and VERY portable, very quickly. Not real big on the ball-and-chain approach.

The Imac G5 is a great machine, but not for me, at least to use on a regular basis with tethering. I wish there was a really rocking laptop, but there seems to be a gap in performance between the MacBookPro and the Imac or Tower. I see no need why a laptop needs to be so very thin, forcing everything to be contained in such a small form factor. I would gladly use a MacBookPro that was two or three inches thick, on the keyboard side, to get more performance out of it. 7200rpm drive is bare minimum.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2007, 03:03:24 pm »

i think the apple warranty is officially gone once you open up the housing (which i have done with pretty much every mac i have ever had) same goes for memory not bought with your apple 9first thing the service guy will ask you: do you have 3rd party ram installed?) anyway, mce has a install option and they provide a warranty (i think at that point the apple warranty stays in place as well)......
i use one drive for system and apps and the second for data, so while one drive runs C1, the other accepts the data...capture speed is faster, hw much? hard to say maybe 5-10%, it feels faster, but i did not time anything....
obviously the system is not faster (then a single 7200rpm) but processing and PS work is quite a bit faster (seperate scratch disc)....having 3-4 apps open at the same time while working with files is much faster....
for me it was a no-brainer, i almost never use the built in optical, i need the extra space anyway and the speed increase is well worth it for the money.....i haven't done the extra (3rd gig) ram upgrade yet, but will probably do that as well soon....
another option would be to create a striped array with the 2 drives which should really speed thing up, but i am too worried about drive failure...never happened to me, but in that case if one drive fails, all data is lost....and harder to recover....but that solution should give pretty nice capture speed....how much more? i find that we are still somewhat held back by FW400 anyway....
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2007, 04:28:05 pm »

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i think the apple warranty is officially gone once you open up the housing (which i have done with pretty much every mac i have ever had) same goes for memory not bought with your apple 9first thing the service guy will ask you: do you have 3rd party ram installed?) anyway, mce has a install option and they provide a warranty (i think at that point the apple warranty stays in place as well)......
i use one drive for system and apps and the second for data, so while one drive runs C1, the other accepts the data...capture speed is faster, hw much? hard to say maybe 5-10%, it feels faster, but i did not time anything....
obviously the system is not faster (then a single 7200rpm) but processing and PS work is quite a bit faster (seperate scratch disc)....having 3-4 apps open at the same time while working with files is much faster....
for me it was a no-brainer, i almost never use the built in optical, i need the extra space anyway and the speed increase is well worth it for the money.....i haven't done the extra (3rd gig) ram upgrade yet, but will probably do that as well soon....
another option would be to create a striped array with the 2 drives which should really speed thing up, but i am too worried about drive failure...never happened to me, but in that case if one drive fails, all data is lost....and harder to recover....but that solution should give pretty nice capture speed....how much more? i find that we are still somewhat held back by FW400 anyway....
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i have only got a p25, but ive found the macbookpro keeps up with my desktop dual 1.8 g5. and processess files faster. the big difference was when changing from a g4 laptop to the macbookpro, the laptop screams along. scrolling through shots the previews keep up, with only a split second of redraw. the p25 file are a bit smaller though.

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