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Jonathan Cross

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Giclee
« on: July 02, 2023, 01:00:12 pm »

I keep photgraphic notes and data in a notebook that has the meaning of words and acronyms at the bottom of its pages.  I have just come across the entry for Giclee,

An inkjet print that is produced to fine-art standards, using superior machinery.  It sounds French, and it is, but the literal translation is 'forced through a nozzle'.  In the native French it is very much more likely to to occur in references to procreation.

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Re: Giclee
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2023, 03:30:19 pm »

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' Alice said.

"Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously.  'Of course you don't—till I tell you. . . .  When I use a word,'  Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'"

—Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

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Re: Giclee
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2023, 04:20:45 pm »

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' Alice said.

"Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously.  'Of course you don't—till I tell you. . . .  When I use a word,'  Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'"

—Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

Brilliant!

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Re: Giclee
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2023, 06:09:39 pm »

Dealt with extensively in another thread ,
what to call a digital print and why is there no standard?

Some history might help …

Giclée
A neologism - attributed to Jack Duganne.

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Giclée

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The process is relatively new, having its beginnings in the 90’s when in Los Angeles, printmaker Jack Duganne was producing high-quality images using printers at his studio (Duganne Ateliers) that differed from what commercial fine art printmakers were doing with their IRIS printers. Jack wanted to separate himself from the negative connotations associated with the reproductions being created by IRIS printers, and set out to find a new name for his high-quality reproductions.

Inspired by the French word for inkjet (jet d’encre), Jack named his prints after the French word for nozzle (le gicleur). Since nozzles do all the spraying in fine art reproductions, he went with the feminine word for spray in French (la giclee).
(source unknown)

You might not like it (I don’t) but you now know its etymology!
30 years on, it's a term superceded by more descriptive terms.
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Re: Giclee
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2023, 08:02:52 am »

Lots of things sound classier in French.
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Re: Giclee
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2023, 10:55:36 am »

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The process is relatively new, having its beginnings in the 90’s when in Los Angeles, printmaker Jack Duganne was producing high-quality images using printers at his studio (Duganne Ateliers) that differed from what commercial fine art printmakers were doing with their IRIS printers.
Rubbish (bull merde)! Jack first worked with Nash and Holbert, the true originators of using an Iris for this kind of output. Nash spent $100K for the printer, and just after it arrived, Holbert, with his permission, voided the warranty by using a hack saw on the innards! Jack left Nash Editions (again, the true originator) set up his own shop, and made up this BS term. That's all the credit he deserves in this discussion! 
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Re: Giclee
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2023, 06:58:37 pm »

Rubbish (bull merde)

You missed out 'bollocks'; [/ ;D]
The post clarified the etymology.


The rest I'll leave it to you to enlighten Wikipedia, but it's not as though Duganne went knocking on Nash''s door - he was already a professor at UCLA. And his numerous obituaries testify to his substantial contribution to the arts. 

Originator? There was no single 'originator', but from OSA, one 'John Vaught' a college dropout in mechanical engineering, came up with the technology behind modern “thermal” inkjet printing by observing how coffee percolators heated and dispensed the water while working at Hewlett-Packard. Vaught did so simultaneously and independently of Canon’s Ichiro Enda, who also developed thermal inkjet printing. They share a number of awards and recognitions including OSA’s Edwin H. Land Medal “for their independent inventions of bubble-jet and thermal ink jet technology

Wikipedia : Inkjet printing

And, yes, guessing that most of us do know that Nash donated the IRIS to the Smithsonian.
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Re: Giclee
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2023, 09:59:54 pm »

The rest I'll leave it to you to enlighten Wikipedia, but it's not as though Duganne went knocking on Nash''s door - he was already a professor at UCLA. And his numerous obituaries testify to his substantial contribution to the arts.
What you provided from Wikipedia is wrong. Being a professor at UCLA doesn't change the actual history that wasn't provided correctly.
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Re: Giclee
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2023, 04:04:47 pm »

This learned discussion has made me all giggly.
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