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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2480 on: December 17, 2021, 02:15:19 pm »

From what I have read, the new variant is not as deadly.  Statistics soon will tell.  It may turn out like the regular flu.  Officials are not treating it like the flu however insisting on masking up again.  The problem is many people are done with the mask.  Even here in NJ, the democrat governor Murphy has indicated people have "had it" with masks.
And now we move away from the armchair virologist, director of the Center for misinformation, to those who actually understand the science:
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The coronavirus will hit millions of Americans in a "viral blizzard" within a few weeks as infections from the Omicron variant pile on top of Delta, an expert predicts.
Already, hospitalizations are rising as the holiday season gets into full swing. Long lines for Covid-19 testing formed Thursday in metro areas, including New York, Boston and Miami.
The Delta variant remains a problem. And Omicron, with its high transmissibility, could strike millions more soon, said Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

"We're really just about to experience a viral blizzard," Osterholm told CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday. "In the next three to eight weeks, we're going to see millions of Americans are going to be infected with this virus, and that will be overlaid on top of Delta, and we're not yet sure exactly how that's going to work out."

In another forum, the other day, we heard this from the director fabulist of the Center for misinformation:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2481 on: December 17, 2021, 07:41:09 pm »

Just today:
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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine announced on Friday that he has mobilized 1,050 members of the National Guard to assist with COVID-related staffing issues in hospitals across the state.

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Businesses, schools, venues shuttering as U.S. Covid cases rise

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Southwest CEO tests positive for Covid days after unmasked Senate hearing with other airline chiefs

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New York state reports highest number of daily Covid cases of entire pandemic at more than 21,000

On Earth2:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.

Edit; good news:
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A Biden administration rule — that requires workers at companies with 100 or more employees to be vaccinated against Covid or undergo weekly testing, starting Jan. 4 — is back on.
The 6th Circuit Court of Appeals lifted a stay on the rule Friday evening.
A three-judge panel of the 6th Circuit found these injuries asserted by the petitioners to be "entirely speculative," and the costs of delaying implementation of the rule to be comparatively high.
Speculation, like “now that Covid is on the way out”.🤮
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"Fundamentally, the [rule] is an important step in curtailing the transmission of a deadly virus that has killed over 800,000 people in the United States, brought our healthcare system to its knees, forced businesses to shut down for months on end, and cost hundreds of thousands of workers their jobs," wrote Circuit Judge Jane B. Stranch, an Obama appointee.
Don't miss this:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-voted-trump-higher-covid-death-rate?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1
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New data analysis has revealed that if US Democratic voters were to make up their own country, it would have one of the world’s most vaccinated populations, with more than 91% of adults having received at least one shot.
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Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey reissues executive order banning local vaccine mandates
Sadly, you can't make this up.😢
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2482 on: December 18, 2021, 08:27:48 am »

Here is a very good report on Omicron by Kevin Paffrath. 13 minutes long, well worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkormdO6m5M
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« Reply #2483 on: December 18, 2021, 08:43:18 am »

How many people are dying from Omicron?  Hospitalized? Which groups? (vaccinated or not; with or without booster)?

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« Reply #2484 on: December 18, 2021, 08:48:28 am »

Here is a very good report on Omicron by Kevin Paffrath. 13 minutes long, well worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkormdO6m5M
I don't know if I should take a guy with pink hair as an expert about Covid.

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« Reply #2485 on: December 18, 2021, 09:31:07 am »

Now it goes to the Supreme Court.

Appeals court lets Biden administration enforce vaccine rules for large employers
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/appeals-court-vaccine-mandate-osha-large-employers-federal-contractors/index.html

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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2486 on: December 18, 2021, 09:48:55 am »

How many people are dying from Omicron?  Hospitalized? Which groups? (vaccinated or not; with or without booster)?
You have this odd habit of asking questions of others, when your posting history and agenda show/prove, you have no desire or ability to accept any answer. No need to ask.
It's as pointless as pointing out or asking where you got this absurd “idea”:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.
A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding.” -Marshall McLuhan
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Re: Promising New Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #2487 on: December 18, 2021, 10:05:18 am »

For those on Earth, accept facts, understand the potential of variants, can critically think:
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Coronavirus cases are surging in London as the Omicron variant has officially replaced Delta — a sign of what's likely just around the corner for parts of the U.S.
The bottom line: The ratio of deaths to cases will be lower than spring 2020, simply because so many Americans are either vaccinated or have already been infected. But it's still unclear if the variant itself is less severe, and how many people are vulnerable to it.
Driving the news: South Africa and the UK are regularly releasing data that help predict what the coming days and weeks will bring the U.S.
Both places have made it clear that the virus spreads at a faster rate than we've seen during the pandemic, and it's able to escape at least some of the immunity provided by vaccines or previous infections.
https://www.axios.com/omicron-coronavirus-cases-christmas-london-5ef22bcc-34e2-4b31-9d4e-534c9f395d00.html

On another planet:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.
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« Reply #2488 on: December 18, 2021, 10:12:41 am »

I don't know if I should take a guy with pink hair as an expert about Covid.

Never mind his orange hair. Last month it was green.
This is a guy who makes $5M per month from his Youtube reports. What he makes additionally in stocks and real estate could keep lights going in all homes in NJ (Almost).
He was the highest ranking democrat challenging Gavin Newsom in the last CA recall election. He may win the next election.

Trust me! Spend 13 minutes, listen to his report, and then make a judgment. That will be a much better investment than arguing with me or others.
 
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« Reply #2489 on: December 18, 2021, 10:24:20 am »

Trust me! Spend 13 minutes, listen to his report, and then make a judgment. That will be a much better investment than arguing with me or others.
Impossible request. Super reasonable request. The conformation bias will not allow for it.
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« Reply #2490 on: December 18, 2021, 10:58:57 am »

Never mind his orange hair. Last month it was green.
This is a guy who makes $5M per month from his Youtube reports. What he makes additionally in stocks and real estate could keep lights going in all homes in NJ (Almost).
He was the highest ranking democrat challenging Gavin Newsom in the last CA recall election. He may win the next election.

Trust me! Spend 13 minutes, listen to his report, and then make a judgment. That will be a much better investment than arguing with me or others.
 
I like Kevin and have watched him until after the election when he decided to color his hair green, pink or chartreuse. It seems to be a way of him getting attention.  He lost me after that. Regardless of his money-making investments, he's not an expert on viral infections and is just pulling out articles to highlight as we all do. 

The one thing I found interesting that he mentioned is how J&J has been downgraded.  People have died from it.  It causes blood clots?  It's also nowhere as effective as  Moderna or Pfizer.  When I said a year ago that people should not use J&J but rather Moderna or Pfizer, all the people here on the left told me I was nuts and biased.  J&J was equally as good.  Funny thing is that I was following the science.  They weren't.  They were arguing for J&J on political grounds as many of their other arguments.  So now that I've been proven right, none of those early naysayers have spoken up to acknowledge their error.  Figures.

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« Reply #2491 on: December 18, 2021, 11:00:44 am »

Impossible request. Super reasonable request. The conformation bias will not allow for it.
Sorry.  I'm following the science, not like you who's following a real estate and stock investor for advice on Covid.

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« Reply #2492 on: December 18, 2021, 11:19:52 am »

Sorry.  I'm following the science, not like you who's following a real estate and stock investor for advice on Covid.
Sure you do, but not on our planet:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.
Do show us the science from our planet where Covid-19 is on the way out.
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« Reply #2493 on: December 18, 2021, 11:23:27 am »

I like Kevin and have watched him until after the election when he decided to color his hair green, pink or chartreuse.
Yes, hair color is such an important criteria for acceptance. 
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« Reply #2494 on: December 18, 2021, 11:27:57 am »

Yes, hair color is such an important criteria for acceptance. 
He's a real estate and stock adviser, not a scientist.  But you can get your Covid information from whom you like.  For a guy who says he follows the science, you seem to have a real confirmation-biased attitude.  I question just how much knowledge you really have on subjects you claim to be an expert on. 

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« Reply #2495 on: December 18, 2021, 11:35:12 am »

He's a real estate and stock adviser, not a scientist.
What are you?
Again, you can't answer a simple question to back up this rubbish:
So now that Covid is on the way out, we're left with the economic damage.
What science from planet Earth states Covid-19 is on the way out?
Put up or shut up.
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Sorry.  I'm following the science...
Truth or lie???
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« Reply #2496 on: December 18, 2021, 11:41:21 am »

I like Kevin and have watched him until after the election when he decided to color his hair green, pink or chartreuse. It seems to be a way of him getting attention.  He lost me after that. Regardless of his money-making investments, he's not an expert on viral infections and is just pulling out articles to highlight as we all do. 

The one thing I found interesting that he mentioned is how J&J has been downgraded.  People have died from it.  It causes blood clots?  It's also nowhere as effective as  Moderna or Pfizer.  When I said a year ago that people should not use J&J but rather Moderna or Pfizer, all the people here on the left told me I was nuts and biased.  J&J was equally as good.  Funny thing is that I was following the science.  They weren't.  They were arguing for J&J on political grounds as many of their other arguments.  So now that I've been proven right, none of those early naysayers have spoken up to acknowledge their error.  Figures.

I agree that dying his hair in those extreme colors is silly. He mentioned something that he did it to show others that he didn't care what they think of him.
Regardless, he is much smarter than you and me combined.
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« Reply #2497 on: December 18, 2021, 11:53:04 am »

I agree that dying his hair in those extreme colors is silly. He mentioned something that he did it to show others that he didn't care what they think of him.
Regardless, he is much smarter than you and me combined.
He is smart but still young and hasn't developed the wisdom we all get, hopefully,  from age.  He's also been very successful but has only operated a few years in a very bull market in real estate and stocks.   When everything is going up, it's a lot easier to pick winners.

One area I disagree with him is cryptocurrency.  I don't think he understands that it has no intrinsic value from what I have heard him discuss about it. Now, you could make money from it working on the "greater fool" concept, that there's always another person willing to pay more than you did.  But in the end,  crypto is valueless, and you run out of fools to buy it like investors did in Beanie Babies.  At least with fiat currency like the dollar, you can make wallpaper out of it.  And you can always give your Beanie Babies to your grandkids.  :)

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« Reply #2498 on: December 18, 2021, 12:02:04 pm »

He is smart but still young and hasn't developed the wisdom we all get, hopefully,  from age.  He's also been very successful but has only operated a few years in a very bull market in real estate and stocks.   When everything is going up, it's a lot easier to pick winners.

One area I disagree with him is cryptocurrency.  I don't think he understands that it has no intrinsic value from what I have heard him discuss about it. Now, you could make money from it working on the "greater fool" concept, that there's always another person willing to pay more than you did.  But in the end,  crypto is valueless, and you run out of fools to buy it like investors did in Beanie Babies.  At least with fiat currency like the dollar, you can make wallpaper out of it.  And you can always give your Beanie Babies to your grandkids.  :)

I am of the same opinion on crypto as you. But maybe because I don't understand it.
In the meantime, there are plenty of well known people holding some crypto, including investors like Elon Musk, Cathie Wood, and even Kevin O'Leary.
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« Reply #2499 on: December 18, 2021, 12:46:35 pm »

29 min ago:
More than 5,000 new coronavirus cases reported in NYC, according to mayor.
1 hr 9 min ago:
WHO: Omicron cases doubling every 1.5 to 3 days in countries where transmission is documented.
2 hr 17 min ago:
UK records more than 10,000 Omicron variant cases in the past 24 hours, health authorities say.

Sorry.  I'm following the science, not like you who's following a real estate and stock investor for advice on Covid.
So now that Covid is on the way out...
You are not following the science. Or the facts. Nothing new.
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