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« Reply #16440 on: October 19, 2024, 12:09:01 pm »

Oh darn, more facts:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7685699/
Individuals with large followings can influence public opinions and behaviors, especially during a pandemic. In the early days of the pandemic, US president Donald J Trump has endorsed the use of unproven therapies. Subsequently, a death attributed to the wrongful ingestion of a chloroquine-containing compound occurred.

From March 1 to April 30, 2020, Donald J Trump made 11 tweets about unproven therapies and mentioned these therapies 65 times in White House briefings, especially touting hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. These tweets had an impression reach of 300% above Donald J Trump’s average. Following these tweets, at least 2% of airtime on conservative networks for treatment modalities like azithromycin and continuous mentions of such treatments were observed on stations like Fox News. Google searches and purchases increased following his first press conference on March 19, 2020, and increased again following his tweets on March 21, 2020. The same is true for medications on Amazon, with purchases for medicine substitutes, such as hydroxychloroquine, increasing by 200%.
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« Reply #16441 on: October 19, 2024, 12:13:03 pm »

The conclusion is that Trump was not advising anyone to inject themselves with bleach. He was merely floating ideas for potential treatments to be tested, during a press conference in the White House which included the 'Under Secretary for Science and Technology', William Bryan." Amen.
Let me float an idea for you considering this site: make and post a photograph. Maybe Trump could float this idea, and you’d try….It would be a great way to start a reset of your standing as a serious person here.

Amen.
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« Reply #16443 on: October 19, 2024, 03:38:11 pm »

Even better:
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« Reply #16444 on: October 19, 2024, 03:59:02 pm »

Even better:
Yes, things were better under Trump. Want we to list all that?
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« Reply #16445 on: October 19, 2024, 04:03:42 pm »

Yes, things were better under Trump.
If you have a wife (poor dear), then she might need you to see this:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fat-pig-husbands-detroit-rally-1971600
Donald Trump Urges Women To Get 'Fat Pig' Husbands To Vote Early
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« Reply #16446 on: October 19, 2024, 07:55:38 pm »

At least he has a sense of humour.  ;D

Obesity is a huge problem in the USA. There is a greater number of obese people in the USA than the entire population of Australia.
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« Reply #16447 on: October 19, 2024, 11:13:24 pm »

At least he has a sense of humour.  ;D

Obesity is a huge problem in the USA. There is a greater number of obese people in the USA than the entire population of Australia.
Yes, Trump is also obese. 😜
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/overweight-never-smoker-5-things-to-know-about-donald-trumps-health/amp_articleshow/114358355.cms
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« Reply #16449 on: October 20, 2024, 06:34:55 am »

... What he did was suggest to his Covid coordinator to research whether coronavirus might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body. Get it, or is this too much to comprehend?

I'm sure the researchers appreciated the help.
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« Reply #16450 on: October 20, 2024, 06:39:00 am »

This comes a little close to buying votes, doesn't it? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4943170-elon-musk-pay-pennsylvania-voters/.

Is this an implied contract and can payment be forced? You see, I don't actually believe he'll cough up the cash.

Is buying votes ok now, btw? I've always thought it was not ok, but then I've always thought that monopolies were bad and the thinking on that one may have changed.
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« Reply #16451 on: October 20, 2024, 07:28:38 am »

I'm English and so have no dog in this particular fight. It seems to me that you lot are unlikely, whatever the outcome, to end up with a first-class president, but if Trump or Harris is the best you can find, so be it.

One thing does strike me, having kept a weather eye on the discussion over the last few months. While you all, with one or two exceptions, derive what I must assume to be enormous pleasure from shouting into the echo chamber of Trump mockery, some, most or all of which may be entirely justified, I don't recall having read a single supportive comment about Harris (no doubt I'll be corrected if I've missed something). A widely-held view on this side of the Atlantic, at least until a couple of months ago, was that she was perhaps the only Democrat more likely than Biden to lose to Trump, but that's not something one often hears now. Of course, as we very well know over here, if your opponents are sufficiently disliked it's possible to win, and to win big, merely by being blandly innocuous. Is that the idea?

Just curious.

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« Reply #16452 on: October 20, 2024, 09:33:01 am »

Yeah! The Times of India!
IOW, not Fox “News”.
The value of facts and evidence exists even when you decide to ignore them. The data can be fact-checked and verified, although the author acknowledges that acceptance of facts may be influenced by the reader’s confirmation bias.
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In his February 2019 annual physical, Trump, who is 6'3", tipped the scales at 243 pounds. That gave him a BMI of 30.4 -- just over the edge of obesity but far from the technical definition of "severe" or "extreme" (or "morbid") obesity.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/19/politics/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-fat-hydroxychloroquine
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« Reply #16453 on: October 20, 2024, 11:51:39 am »

Jeremy, its not hard to find reasons to support one side in the US presidential race, even today, in a small town local newspaper:
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/commentary/this-election-voters-actually-have-a-choice/article_bbc8d8cc-8ccb-11ef-b434-f7189c6e089f.html
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« Reply #16454 on: October 20, 2024, 07:05:59 pm »

Jeremy, its not hard to find reasons to support one side in the US presidential race, even today, in a small town local newspaper:
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/commentary/this-election-voters-actually-have-a-choice/article_bbc8d8cc-8ccb-11ef-b434-f7189c6e089f.html

Only one candidate has a terrible track record that shows she doesn't care one bit about the American society and the world at large and lies through her teethe all day long.
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« Reply #16455 on: October 20, 2024, 09:23:27 pm »

Only one candidate has a terrible track record that shows she doesn't care one bit about the American society and the world at large and lies through her teethe all day long.
Impossible to take you seriously, really, really impossible!
Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years
January 2021, he's far, far past the 30K by now:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/
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When The Washington Post Fact Checker team first started cataloguing President Donald Trump’s false or misleading claims, we recorded 492 suspect claims in the first 100 days of his presidency. On Nov. 2 alone, the day before the 2020 vote, Trump made 503 false or misleading claims as he barnstormed across the country in a desperate effort to win reelection.
ONE day!
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Fact check: Trump, on a lying spree, made at least 40 separate false claims in two Pennsylvania speeches
Updated 5:29 PM EDT, Thu October 10, 2024
As Election Day draws nearer, the Republican presidential nominee has made false claim after false claim on a dizzying variety of subjects.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/10/politics/fact-check-trump-pennsylvania-speeches/index.html

Frans, you really need help getting out of the confirmation bubble you've set yourself into, you're lost all sense of reality on Earth 1. Sad.
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« Reply #16456 on: October 21, 2024, 01:01:22 am »

...you really need help getting out of the confirmation bubble...
says the guy with a most severe case of TDS!
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« Reply #16457 on: October 21, 2024, 08:54:09 am »

Only one candidate has a terrible track record that shows she doesn't care one bit about the American society and the world at large and lies through her teethe all day long.

1.  Small town, parochial newspapers: ah yes, the most objective sources of all, no doubt. You should have read some of the Scottish ones, even as their politicians of choice were being arrested for fraud and misuse of public funds, as well as of funds raised from their sheep for party use, and not personal jollies, such as buying camper homes. The wringing of hands, the ringing of lies from their stinking mouths.

2. You couldn’t make it up, but nice to see that you cats in the good old US of A are just as expert in living in the land of make-believe. I blame tv and the mind-scrambling world of social media. I guess many people are doomed to such lives, right from the cradle.
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« Reply #16458 on: October 21, 2024, 09:15:54 am »

says the guy with a most severe case of TDS!
Another feckless attempt at being taken seriously.
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« Reply #16459 on: October 21, 2024, 09:50:00 am »

https://channel.louisiana.dk/video/liz-diller-the-state-of-america

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