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Re: Bear Pit: now the sole domicile of politics at LuLa
« Reply #680 on: November 10, 2020, 01:02:15 pm »

Too convenient it came out a week after the election.  Pfizer sat on it, whatever the reasons.  Maybe they just didn't want to seem like they were playing favorites.  Whatever.

Well it seems to go against what you are saying that Trump gave pfizer billions to develop the vaccine...and then pfizer sat on the results until after the election. Seems to me pfizer wanted Chetos out of the white house.
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« Reply #681 on: November 10, 2020, 01:02:25 pm »

I thought a Trump defeat would break up the Republican party... Well golly, just the opposite happened. 

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/09/933182112/republican-georgia-senators-call-on-republican-state-election-chief-to-resign

Georgia's Republican U.S. Senators Call On GOP State Election Chief To Resign

"Georgia's two Republican U.S. senators are calling on the state's top election official — also a Republican — to resign Monday after alleging "too many failures in Georgia elections this year" but without mentioning specifics to support their claims."
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« Reply #682 on: November 10, 2020, 01:03:43 pm »

All they need to take credit for, if it works out, is getting stupid Americans to wear a mask when outside, wash their hands, social distance. That's going to HAVE to happen between now and when (IF, big if) 300 million American's all get two shots of the vaccine (so 600 million doses). Thanks to Trump not only making fun of his own CDC guidelines over and over again, he's gone on record against vaccines. Let's see him step up, IF while in office, and get his first dose of the Vaccine to show Americans it's safe and he did such a great job getting it made.
Hold your breath while waiting for that happening Alan.   ;D
Trump had the virus and has antibodies.  He doesn't need the vaccine.  He always supported the vaccine pushing his claim it would be developed this year.  You're totally wrong on this. 

I'm curious why you're still here.  You wanted to shut down the Coffee Corner and get back to photography. Not that I'm chasing you away, but I'm curious what happened to change your mind?

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« Reply #683 on: November 10, 2020, 01:04:04 pm »

Like Obama having his justice department put Dinesh D'souza in jail over some frivolous campaign contribution charge that pretty much everyone does not even have charges brought against them for just because Dinesh made a documentary critical of Obama.  Talk about hating on journalists.
Frivolous, hilarious  D'Souza himself actually pleaded guilty in federal court to one felony charge of using a "straw donor" to make an illegal campaign contribution to a 2012 United States Senate.
Trump to follow his path, but never pleading Guilty.  :P
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« Reply #684 on: November 10, 2020, 01:05:08 pm »

He is President until January 20th.  Insofar as him fighting the results in court, Al Gore showed us in 2000 that this is fully within his rights. 
But Gore was a Democrat.  They're allowed. :)

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« Reply #685 on: November 10, 2020, 01:06:12 pm »

Pot calling kettle black.
Next we'll hear from Joe's Kitchen in the unreality bubble is: Trump rarely (never?) lies.
"I've told more truth than George Washington". Almost as absurd as what he said he did for "his blacks" compared to Abraham Lincoln.
"I never encourage deceit, and falsehood, especially if you have got a bad memory, is the worst enemy a fellow can have. The fact is truth is your truest friend, no matter what the circumstances are"-Abraham Lincoln
 
Let me just remind you what subject we are on, because it seems like you are easily distracted. 

Name me one tangible action Trump did that was authoritarian.  You so far have not named anything, and instead are trying to his rhetoric as examples, which are not tangible.

When someone says "show me the money!," they are not talking about Monopoly money, but actual greenbacks.  Just one tangible action please. 
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« Reply #686 on: November 10, 2020, 01:07:38 pm »

Trump had the virus and has antibodies.  He doesn't need the vaccine. 
You don't know that, but you can make up stuff you don't know about. There is NO scientific proof getting the virus always produces antibodies in all cases and even if it does, there's no data on how long it will last. Further, Trump could still get the vaccine to show it's not harmful to his followers; he is unlikely to do so.
You ever get the flu? Does that mean once you do, you're immune? I understand you probably need to examine the answers and facts about the flu and Covid-19, please do so before posting assumptions based on lack of understanding.
Here, I'll help you a little, as in the past, you've had difficulties using "The Google Machine":

Common question
Do people who have recovered from the coronavirus disease develop immunity?

While individuals who have recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection might develop some protective immunity, the duration and extent of such immunity are not known. Oct 5, 2020

Yet you think it's known; you're again not.
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« Reply #687 on: November 10, 2020, 01:10:37 pm »

Frivolous, hilarious  D'Souza himself actually pleaded guilty in federal court to one felony charge of using a "straw donor" to make an illegal campaign contribution to a 2012 United States Senate.
Trump to follow his path, but never pleading Guilty.  :P

LOL

You seem to be pretty ignorant to how the justice department works when they go after someone.  D'Souza was targeted and he pleaded guilty because he was threatened with a litany of other trumped up charges. 

Anyway, just to be sure here, you claim to be on the right side while insisting Trump should go to jail after using Trump's rhetoric of jailing his opponents as an example of authoritarianism? 

Sounds like under your own rules, you're quite authoritarian and seem to want Biden to be as well.   ;)
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« Reply #688 on: November 10, 2020, 01:11:03 pm »

  Name me one tangible action Trump did that was authoritarian. 
Gave several, you can't accept them. As predicted. Why keep asking people to provide anything you'll outright ignore and dismiss? Just stop asking. It's pointless and as you continue to prove A posting agenda of CWOBaT.
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« Reply #689 on: November 10, 2020, 01:11:25 pm »

The current plan is to use normal vaccine distribution channels. It is unlikely the military will be used. So no Humvees in front of CVS.
OK, the CDC has been working on the plan.  But the CDC is in the executive branch under the President's' control.  Their plan is his plan and responsibility.  If it's successful, he should get the credit.  If it fails, he should get the blame.  Of course, now that Biden will be president, he'll take the credit.  And blame Trump if it doesn't work.  That's what his former boss Obama did.  For seven years he blamed President Bush for his problems. :)
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/imz-managers/downloads/COVID-19-Vaccination-Program-Interim_Playbook.pdf

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« Reply #690 on: November 10, 2020, 01:12:21 pm »

Gave several, you can't accept them. As predicted. Why keep asking people to provide anything you'll outright ignore and dismiss? Just stop asking. It's pointless and as you continue to prove A posting agenda of CWOBaT.

You actually gave none, not one tangible example. 
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« Reply #691 on: November 10, 2020, 01:12:57 pm »

LOL
You seem to be pretty ignorant to how the justice department works when they go after someone.  D'Souza was targeted and he pleaded guilty because he was threatened with a litany of other trumped up charges.
He pleaded guilty, there was evidence he was guilty and he served what he was due; that's how justice works in this country (well prior to Barr). 
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« Reply #692 on: November 10, 2020, 01:14:58 pm »

He pleaded guilty, there was evidence he was guilty and he served what he was due; that's how justice works in this country (well prior to Barr).

Obama targeted him because of a movie critical of Obama.  They looked for something he did wrong and used the full weight of the government against him. He was targeted by Obama, an actual authoritarian. 
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« Reply #693 on: November 10, 2020, 01:15:35 pm »

OK, the CDC has been working on the plan.  But the CDC is in the executive branch under the President's' control.  Their plan is his plan and responsibility.
Right, like how many times has Trump done stuff that goes totally against CDC guidelines? Too many to list but they exist.
This is just like the vote (If it's for Trump it's legal, if it's for Biden it's illegal): If the CDC does something that's good, Trump gets credit (and he should to some degree). If the CDC recommends something and he doesn't follow it, he should get blamed (yet he doesn't by his minions).
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« Reply #694 on: November 10, 2020, 01:16:55 pm »

You don't know that, but you can make up stuff you don't know about. There is NO scientific proof getting the virus always produces antibodies in all cases and even if it does, there's no data on how long it will last. Further, Trump could still get the vaccine to show it's not harmful to his followers; he is unlikely to do so.
You ever get the flu? Does that mean once you do, you're immune? I understand you probably need to examine the answers and facts about the flu and Covid-19, please do so before posting assumptions based on lack of understanding.
Here, I'll help you a little, as in the past, you've had difficulties using "The Google Machine":

Common question
Do people who have recovered from the coronavirus disease develop immunity?

While individuals who have recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection might develop some protective immunity, the duration and extent of such immunity are not known. Oct 5, 2020

Yet you think it's known; you're again not.
Can't you debate without insulting people?  Have a nice day.

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« Reply #695 on: November 10, 2020, 01:17:10 pm »

Obama targeted him because of a movie critical of Obama. 
That's what Obama told you right? Rubbish. In spades. You're really not to be taken seriously and by and large, are not. Adiós.
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« Reply #696 on: November 10, 2020, 01:18:10 pm »

Can't you debate without insulting people?  Have a nice day.
You feel insulted for making up stuff and passing it off, then being caught making up stuff and passing it off?
I'm sorry the facts have ruined your day.
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« Reply #697 on: November 10, 2020, 01:22:52 pm »

That's what Obama told you right? Rubbish. In spades. You're really not to be taken seriously and by and large, are not. Adiós.

LOL.  Seriously, I am sitting here with a smile on my face.  You guys are suppose to be joyous, but Trump really did break you.  He broke you down to nothing, and now you are pissed conservatives are still going to be conservatives after this (lets face it) amazing election for my side. 

I really think deep down you know you guys know your era is ending, and that is why you are so upset. 

BTW, Obama did target him. 
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« Reply #698 on: November 10, 2020, 01:25:05 pm »

Trump had the virus and has antibodies.  He doesn't need the vaccine. 
Before you leave the forums and facts behind, maybe you'll examine this, and recognize Trump and all his staff infected CAN get Covid-19 again:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30783-0/fulltext
In The Lancet Infectious Diseases, Richard L Tillett and colleagues describe the first confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 reinfection in the USA.2 A 25-year-old man from the US state of Nevada, who had no known immune disorders, had PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in April, 2020

This case report adds to rapidly growing evidence of COVID-19 reinfection, in which viral genomic sequences were used to confirm infections by distinct isolates of SARS-CoV-2.

So, should we listen to Alan Klein above or maybe, maybe pay a bit more attention to "The Lancet" as I can't find any peer reviewed data there from Alan Klein. Those using critical thinking can now make up their own minds.
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« Reply #699 on: November 10, 2020, 01:41:57 pm »

So who exactly is "Socialist OEC"?

I thin Alan means AOC...
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