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Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« on: June 01, 2020, 09:45:20 am »

Central Camera, one of the few remaining full service photo stores in Chicago was trashed last night during rioting. This is most unfortunate since it deprives photographers the opportunity to visit a store where one can actually see, handle and compare different photo equipment. Located in the central loop with the highest sales tax in the nation encumbers their business and this could be the final straw for them. They are starting a gofundme site and interested photographers should consider a contribution.

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Bill
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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2020, 12:27:37 pm »

Ah, those Russians and white supremacists, they ruin everything ;)

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2020, 04:13:38 pm »

Ah, those Russians and white supremacists, they ruin everything ;)


Guess so; especially when the mindset wears a uniform.

Seriously, though, there are always those ready to take advantage of any opportunity to steal. Their actions have nothing whatsoever to do with race relations and everything to do with crime.

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2020, 04:18:20 pm »

...Their actions have nothing whatsoever to do with race relations and everything to do with crime.

Except 99% of the looters are of the same race.

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2020, 05:34:31 pm »

probably more directly linked to poverty...
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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2020, 06:03:24 pm »

Except 99% of the looters are of the same race.

100% American?
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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2020, 03:29:59 am »

100% American?

You forgot the hyphen.

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2020, 04:17:00 am »

You forgot the hyphen.

Which brings us right back to the thorny question of what maketh an American: So much national flag-waving, but underneath... chaos and uncertainty, an emotion which can often revealed by excessive bravado. Just as with politicians: the more staunchly they declare something, the more doubts about it you can believe that they have.

Reminds me of some salesmen I knew: when asked how they were doing they'd invariably tell you that everything was going ahead swimmingly. Next day they were looking for a job because the company had folded.

It's worth noting that realising that about employed people was quite useful in giving me courage when my own business went through difficult times: being self-employed was evidently no more nor no less secure than was employment.
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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2020, 04:20:45 am »

Which brings us right back to the thorny question of what maketh an American: So much national flag-waving, but underneath... chaos and uncertainty...

Underneath ... are Democrats, causing that chaos and uncertainty, ruining this great country.

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2020, 04:23:45 am »

Underneath ... are Democrats, causing that chaos and uncertainty, ruining this great country.

Which, then, means that you desire a one-party state. Translation: dictatorship.

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2020, 04:58:44 am »

Which, then, means that you desire a one-party state. Translation: dictatorship.

Just hoping that commies will lose the election.

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2020, 06:16:17 am »

A glimmer of hope: black people defending Target from looting:

https://www.facebook.com/gypsymonkey/videos/10217241219929129

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2020, 06:29:57 am »

Except 99% of the looters are of the same race.

Are you afraid of saying black? You are quick to apply insults (commies is another one) and your clear bias. All it does is derailing another thread.

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2020, 06:47:31 am »

Are you afraid of saying black? You are quick to apply insults (commies is another one) and your clear bias. All it does is derailing another thread.

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What do you need the moderator here for?

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2020, 07:14:43 am »

What do you need the moderator here for?

I was assuming that derailing a thread with political insults was not permitted?

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2020, 07:52:40 am »

I was assuming that derailing a thread with political insults was not permitted?

What exactly is the political insult? That I used a term "commies"? And why exactly is a descriptor of political beliefs insulting? My understanding is that personal insults are not permitted, e.g., if I would say  "you are an idiot" (I wouldn't say that anyway).

And how exactly is what posted "derailing" the thread? The thread is about violence inspired by decades-long Democratic policies of peddling victimhood among black people.

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2020, 10:04:27 am »

What exactly is the political insult? That I used a term "commies"? And why exactly is a descriptor of political beliefs insulting? My understanding is that personal insults are not permitted, e.g., if I would say  "you are an idiot" (I wouldn't say that anyway).

And how exactly is what posted "derailing" the thread? The thread is about violence inspired by decades-long Democratic policies of peddling victimhood among black people.

This thread is about photographers contributing to recover an historical photo store that was destroyed during the riots. Could have been hit by a meteor, the purpose of the thread would be the same.

Your political bias, plus your cheap swiping at others that do not share your political beliefs, I find insulting. The mods were quick at intervening in the playpen thread banning riot - related posts, I was expecting they would do the same here.

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2020, 10:07:04 am »

A different view of the store's situation is presented here, http://photothunk.blogspot.com/2020/06/central-camera-of-chicago.html#comment-form.

Did the store, building owners, etc. not have insurance?
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2020, 10:26:44 am »

What exactly is the political insult? That I used a term "commies"? And why exactly is a descriptor of political beliefs insulting? My understanding is that personal insults are not permitted, e.g., if I would say  "you are an idiot" (I wouldn't say that anyway).e

And how exactly is what posted "derailing" the thread? The thread is about violence inspired by decades-long Democratic policies of peddling victimhood among black people.


Now that's more than a little disingenuous!

Victimhood is not a myth peddled by a party: it's reality everywhere where the majority is white, but not exclusively just there between those colours. It is analogous to the problems that women face in our own culture (speaking as western white) if perhaps this is evident in less obvious ways.

Blended with the basic clash of cultures between western whites, orientals, asians and all of those of African descent (whatever may be the reality of human migration out of Africa from a beginning there) is the inability really to understand - or even want to understand - what the other is all about. Consequently, a deep relationship is difficult if you expect to enjoy it on equal terms.

Stereotypes rule: if you look at any pop music video, listen to blues or jazz, the influence of black America is writ large. And as far as this guy is concerned, that influence has made popular music better: imagine a staple diet of Doris Day ditties! Black entertainers get rapturous applause from white audiences these days - probably since the advent of cool jazz and rock'n'roll. But that's one specific area: entertainment.

Ring the changes to a scene that's not the world of entertainment and it all changes gear, depending largely on personal beliefs and perspectives.

There is the question of how successful whites see unsuccessful whites as much as of how each of those sees the coloured races; personal economic situations, education, native intelligence and religion can all affect the reactions of one grouping with any other.

Equally, how do successful blacks see unsuccessful blacks? Do they want to cross-pollinate? Do they want to live next door to them if they can avoid it? Probably no more than wealthy whites would welcome a family of unemployed white oafs moving in next door because they had won the lottery.

That said, there is an even greater issue hiding under the sheets here: interracial sex and reproduction. I doubt that there truly, honestly exists a white father or brother who rejoices at the thought of his daughter/sister travelling the path into racial integration. I can have no idea worth squat about how that same topic is seen in black homes. The only experience I can claim personally to have observed was in 50s India, where there existed the Anglo-Indian community. My takeaway feeling was this: there were some beautiful girls from such unions; they found themselves a group not fully accepted by either the Brits then still out there, nor by the Indians. They appeared to hold better jobs, by and large, but that's history. It would be interesting to understand how they are placed today. With relatively few Brits there anymore, has the opportunity for interracial sex and (sometimes) marriage evaporated to a great degree; do the A-Is cling to their own groupings or has the weight of sheer numbers created a much browner version of that group today?

Basically, I think that there is always going to be a huge problem between races that, today, is be becoming even more polarised due to religious bigotry beyond any version of it one once knew. The divide between haves and have-nots is growing faster than ever, and quite apart from its effects in one colour of society, it can only stoke the flames when competion is seen to come from another ethnic group.

It all looks likely to continue apace, with no love between different races any more than the majority of voting Brits showed for the other Europeans. Fine on our terms, but fuck off if you want to share with us in return. Anyway, is the black/white problem any worse than the northern African one with the sub-Saharan people? We tend to think of it as just a guilty western open secret.

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Re: Iconic Camera Store in Chicago Trashed
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2020, 10:34:30 am »

This thread is about photographers contributing to recover an historical photo store that was destroyed during the riots. Could have been hit by a meteor, the purpose of the thread would be the same.

Your political bias, plus your cheap swiping at others that do not share your political beliefs, I find insulting. The mods were quick at intervening in the playpen thread banning riot - related posts, I was expecting they would do the same here.


True, this began with the report of a looted camera shop. But for how long and how deeply does anyone apart from the business owner care to maintain interest? The questions of motivation and causes are far more interesting to the posters - that's why threads develop as they do.

Rob

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