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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6140 on: July 13, 2020, 03:29:56 pm »

If I remember correctly, shortly after the election Trump sent his body guard over to the doctor's office to retrieve all of his medical records. Must of been something in them he didn't want the public to see. Can you imaging anyone actually selecting this guy to be his GP. Creepy.

It's a very different set of criteria than what I would be using to choose a healthcare professional.
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« Reply #6141 on: July 13, 2020, 04:05:20 pm »

I know that this is maybe beating a dead horse, but folks is this any way for a country's leader to behave, https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/13/trump-questions-public-health-experts-twitter-359388.

Scientific experts are all acting in concert to thwart his re-election? Seriously? There can't possibly be anyone left who takes this buffoon seriously anymore. Nothing he says makes any sense.

Is that what a country is now, one big electoral game to get your "boy" back in office? It's sickening to watch this happen. No wonder nobody competent wants to work for him, they don't want to be tainted. This is just so sad.
You want us to vote for Biden, a senile old man, to run America who doesn't have the courage to come out of his basement? You present scientist expert opinion (of your choosing) but no economics experts who might have differing advice for the country.   A president is faced just like the governors are of trying to balance health and economics.  Governors are bouncing all over the place as to what to do.  But somehow, you feel Trump should be a prophet and know what the future is. 

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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6142 on: July 13, 2020, 04:21:02 pm »

You want us to vote for Biden, a senile old man, to run America who doesn't have the courage to come out of his basement? You present scientist expert opinion (of your choosing) but no economics experts who might have differing advice for the country.   A president is faced just like the governors are of trying to balance health and economics.  Governors are bouncing all over the place as to what to do.  But somehow, you feel Trump should be a prophet and know what the future is.

Trump is out of the game. He abdicated his role in the pandemic months ago. It doesn't really matter what he thinks, if he thinks at all. His machinations are now just a sideshow. He is doing what he usually does when he fails: trying to blame it on someone else. We are just watching the blame game play out. I don't think it is going to work out very well for him. Too many Americans dead and dying.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6143 on: July 13, 2020, 04:23:25 pm »

You want us to vote for Biden, a senile old man, to run America who doesn't have the courage to come out of his basement? You present scientist expert opinion (of your choosing) but no economics experts who might have differing advice for the country.   A president is faced just like the governors are of trying to balance health and economics.  Governors are bouncing all over the place as to what to do.  But somehow, you feel Trump should be a prophet and know what the future is.

You can vote for whoever you like. Did you see Kanye is running?
I'd vote for a man with the courage to do the right thing and stay home when that is the sensible thing to do. Doing that in the face of less informed folks calling him a coward also takes some courage.

There will be no economic recovery without first controlling this virus. I think Biden understands the big picture enough to realize that.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6144 on: July 13, 2020, 04:26:18 pm »

Trump is out of the game. He abdicated his role in the pandemic months ago. It doesn't really matter what he thinks, if he thinks at all. His machinations are now just a sideshow. He is doing what he usually does when he fails: try to blame it on someone else. We are just watching the blame game play out. I don't think it is going to work out very well for him.
He's going after the economy the main thing that could save his presidency.  So everything he does is centered on recovery, getting jobs back, goosing the economy with Fed printing, getting the stock market to regain its loses. In October/November people will have to decide if they want Biden to take over the economy, doubtful if the economy is recovering.  Frankly, I don't think it will recover enough.  But we'll see. 

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« Reply #6145 on: July 13, 2020, 04:28:45 pm »

You can vote for whoever you like. Did you see Kanye is running?
I'd vote for a man with the courage to do the right thing and stay home when that is the sensible thing to do. Doing that in the face of less informed folks calling him a coward also takes some courage.

There will be no economic recovery without first controlling this virus. I think Biden understands the big picture enough to realize that.

Biden understands nothing except to do what will get him elected.  That's why he's staying home to avoid people seeing that he's senile. 

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« Reply #6146 on: July 13, 2020, 04:32:15 pm »

Biden understands nothing except to do what will get him elected.  That's why he's staying home to avoid people seeing that he's senile.

That is one possible explanation. But I don't buy it.
A little senile (which I don't believe he is, but for the sake or argument...) and willing to listen to qualified advisors is still better than the current quagmire.
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« Reply #6147 on: July 13, 2020, 04:33:06 pm »

He's going after the economy the main thing that could save his presidency.

No he's not. He's playing golf, tweeting, and watching Fox News in his pajamas. But mostly whining. I am not even sure he saved a confederate monument last week. Oh, he did manage to commute the sentence of that guy who lied to Congress for him. He's basically a quitter.
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« Reply #6148 on: July 13, 2020, 04:34:07 pm »

You want us to vote for Biden, a senile old man, to run America who doesn't have the courage to come out of his basement? You present scientist expert opinion (of your choosing) but no economics experts who might have differing advice for the country.   A president is faced just like the governors are of trying to balance health and economics.  Governors are bouncing all over the place as to what to do.  But somehow, you feel Trump should be a prophet and know what the future is.

The usual deflection, I see. Do you think Trump's behaviour towards "scientists", accusing them of all sorts, is reasonable behaviour? Is that how leaders operate?
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« Reply #6149 on: July 13, 2020, 04:46:09 pm »

The usual deflection, I see. Do you think Trump's behaviour towards "scientists", accusing them of all sorts, is reasonable behaviour? Is that how leaders operate?
The usual deflection.  Do you think Biden's hiding in his basement is reasonable behavior for a candidate running for president?  Is that how leaders operate? 

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« Reply #6150 on: July 13, 2020, 04:46:22 pm »

He's going after the economy the main thing that could save his presidency.  So everything he does is centered on recovery, getting jobs back, goosing the economy with Fed printing, getting the stock market to regain its loses. In October/November people will have to decide if they want Biden to take over the economy, doubtful if the economy is recovering.  Frankly, I don't think it will recover enough.  But we'll see.
That's the biggest problem, Trump only does what is good for Trump...not the people.
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« Reply #6151 on: July 13, 2020, 04:50:40 pm »

That's the biggest problem, Trump only does what is good for Trump...not the people.
But the people want the economy to improve.  Trump is responding to their concerns.  They're worried sick about their lost jobs or those they might lose.  They're afraid their pensions will be gone; their savings will be inflated away.  EVen Biden sees the handwriting on the wall pushing jobs and other economic arguments copied from Trump. 

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« Reply #6152 on: July 13, 2020, 04:52:15 pm »

But the people want the economy to improve.  Trump is responding to their concerns.  They're worried sick about their lost jobs or those they might lose.  They're afraid their pensions will be gone; their savings will be inflated away.  EVen Biden sees the handwriting on the wall pushing jobs and other economic arguments copied from Trump.

Trump isn't doing squat about the economy or anything else. He's given up, but you keep flailing away.  Do you really, deep down in your heart, think he gives a shit about your pension or how inflation will affect your retirement savings? Here's a hint: he doesn't.

He canceled his rally in New Hampshire on Saturday, ostensibly because it was going to rain, but really because the head of his campaign couldn't tell him it wouldn't be another disaster like Tulsa. Typical avoidance behavior.

He is going to love tomorrow. His niece's book about him is scheduled to go on sale to the public.  Most in the media have already read it. I can't wait to read the reviews. What a loser. Here's a sample:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/mary-trump-book-psychoanalysis-enablers.html
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6153 on: July 13, 2020, 04:59:15 pm »

The usual deflection.  Do you think Biden's hiding in his basement is reasonable behavior for a candidate running for president?  Is that how leaders operate?

Is Biden the President?

But I get it, you don't want to address the issue. I understand, you never do.
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« Reply #6154 on: July 13, 2020, 05:09:05 pm »

The usual deflection.  Do you think Biden's hiding in his basement is reasonable behavior for a candidate running for president?  Is that how leaders operate?

It wouldn't be very smart for Biden to expose himself right now - financially, healthwise and from the PR point of view. Much better to wait until the race heats up and then go fully out.
He used this strategy successfully in the Democratic primaries.
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« Reply #6155 on: July 13, 2020, 05:13:39 pm »

Is Biden the President?

But I get it, you don't want to address the issue. I understand, you never do.
You don't want to talk about Biden, a guy who sold his office to enrich his son, who changed every one of his positions on everything to satisfy the left and socialists and Blacks.  A man who has no beliefs other than he wants to be president. 

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« Reply #6156 on: July 13, 2020, 05:41:56 pm »

You don't want to talk about Biden, a guy who sold his office to enrich his son, who changed every one of his positions on everything to satisfy the left and socialists and Blacks.  A man who has no beliefs other than he wants to be president.

If you just replace "left and socialists and Blacks" with "religious right, fascists, and racists." it would not only be describing Trump, it would also be grammatically correct.
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Re: PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political
« Reply #6157 on: July 13, 2020, 05:44:14 pm »

Speaking of grammar, have you seen Jr.'s new book?

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« Reply #6158 on: July 13, 2020, 06:03:09 pm »

Biden, a senile old man... who doesn't have the courage to come out of his basement

Biden...  That's why he's staying home to avoid people seeing that he's senile

Biden's hiding in his basement

There's a theory that if you repeat a false narrative with enough conviction and frequency, some will start to believe it.


Then once they take the bait, you jerk the line hard and start turning the reel. Because by then, they'll believe anything you say, no matter how ridiculous.

Biden, a guy who sold his office to enrich his son, who changed every one of his positions on everything to satisfy the left and socialists and Blacks.  A man who has no beliefs other than he wants to be president.
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« Reply #6159 on: July 13, 2020, 06:17:24 pm »

A man who has no beliefs other than he wants to be president.

I didn't know you did irony.
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