PLAYPEN: Covid-19 Everything Political

[kers]

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Right now no treatment exists for Covid 19.  No trials have indicated Hydroxychloroquine is not effective, or is effective.  Various studies show differing results.

In some parts of Africa they just swallow any pill - just because its a pill and they think it will cure them from ...anything...
Trump is on that level. I don't need to hate him for that; i only i don't think it is wise to do that,  especially if you are the President of the United States and a role model and the leader for all Americans.

[Craig Lamson]

Yup.  Cuz that's the American Way.

No, it’s how capitalism works, worldwide.  Now unless you are a brain dead socialist...oh wait they play by the get it while you can playbook as well, but instead of earning it they just take it...

[Craig Lamson]

In some parts of Africa they just swallow any pill - just because its a pill and they think it will cure them from ...anything...
Trump is on that level. I don't need to hate him for that; i only i don't think it is wise to do that,  especially if you are the President of the United States and a role model and the leader for all Americans.

In some parts of Africa they would be taking that pill regardless of what Trump says. 

Trumps consulted his Dr.  He didn’t buy the drug on a street corner. So why is it unwise for someone to take a drug with his DRs blessing and report he is doing so?  Because it’s Trump.  Obama would have been called a hero.

Bernard says why not try every drug?  Well guess what, thats what they are doing since no traetment has been developed because this is a novel virus.  Drs are trying to find something that helps.  Now it may turn out that Hydroxychloroquine has limited or even no effects in the treatment of C-19. It still remains unclear if it is a prophylactic for C-19. In any case the furor over thius drug began simply because the media went nuts because it was touted by Trump.  But Trump has also touted the experimental usage of other drugs as well. Why? because like the rest of the world he is hoping one might actually work...just like I am and YOU should be too.

I have no dog in the hunt for Hydroxychloroquine.  If it works, fine, if not, thats fine too.  People tried, which is the best you can ask.  Just as they are trying with many drugs.  But if you are old or even young and it looks likes C-19 might kill you , why do you are anyone else have the right to say...NO, you cant take this!  Thats my point.  Its simply not your call, its not my call, its  not Bernards call.  Its between the DR and the patient.  Simply put...butt out.

Bernard is simply a Trump hating zealot.  He has lost all perspective.  Should we say the same for you?

[BernardLanguillier]

In some parts of Africa they would be taking that pill regardless of what Trump says. 

Trumps consulted his Dr.  He didn’t buy the drug on a street corner. So why is it unwise for someone to take a drug with his DRs blessing and report he is doing so?  Because it’s Trump.  Obama would have been called a hero.

Trump has been known for listening to adverse opinions and for boosting the career of those expressing such opinions. It’s 100% certain that his doctors were in heartfelt agreement.

And Trump has no duty whatsoever as the leader of the free world (double irony here) to only endorse publicly drugs whose effectiveness has been demonstrated.

He can act like a kid, nobody listens anyway.

Everyday that passes by that sees you support such behaviours kills little by little the presidential function you are so eager to see your genius retain.

Cheers,
Bernard

[Robert Roaldi]

  Because it’s Trump.  Obama would have been called a hero.

No, Obama would not have been called a hero. Get a grip.

Is it part of the recommended Trumpster messaging directives, mention Obama as often as possible and accuse him of all sorts, make shit up if you have to. No distraction is too dumb. It's getting old.

[Craig Lamson]

No, Obama would not have been called a hero. Get a grip.

Is it part of the recommended Trumpster messaging directives, mention Obama as often as possible and accuse him of all sorts, make shit up if you have to. No distraction is too dumb. It's getting old.

So how many times have you seen me mention Obama in my posts here? But lets get real.  The press rarely had a harsh word for Obama for 8 long years.  Now they rarely have a good word for Trump.  Is it because Trump has done nothing good to report, or is it something else?  I'll be glad to turn this into a case study of good vrs. bad press bias in the Obama and Trump era's if you want to go there.

[LesPalenik]

why not try every drug?  Well guess what, thats what they are doing since no traetment has been developed because this is a novel virus.  Drs are trying to find something that helps.  Now it may turn out that Hydroxychloroquine has limited or even no effects in the treatment of C-19. It still remains unclear if it is a prophylactic for C-19. In any case the furor over thius drug began simply because the media went nuts because it was touted by Trump.  But Trump has also touted the experimental usage of other drugs as well. Why? because like the rest of the world he is hoping one might actually work...just like I am and YOU should be too.

Now, that really takes the cake. Why not to take the death cap mushroom? Just as an experiment, but it might kill the virus. Any Trump fan would see the logic.

[chez]

No, Obama would not have been called a hero. Get a grip.

Is it part of the recommended Trumpster messaging directives, mention Obama as often as possible and accuse him of all sorts, make shit up if you have to. No distraction is too dumb. It's getting old.

And the Trumpateers line right up with the Trumpster and spew this shit. Do these people actually have their own brains that can think for themselves rather than blindly and stupidly follow their Commander idiot.

[chez]

Now, that really takes the cake. Why not to take the death cap mushroom? Just as an experiment, but it might kill the virus. Any Trump fan would see the logic.

Yeh...maybe Craig can try drinking some Clorox bleach...who knows it might work.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

A Study on Infectivity of Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Carriers

Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405162/?fbclid=IwAR1rxlD7TNB-qmebBOhnsVqk-ViyJypFbozrTlGja_ffQjFOj4RNROihTGw

[Robert Roaldi]

A Study on Infectivity of Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Carriers

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405162/?fbclid=IwAR1rxlD7TNB-qmebBOhnsVqk-ViyJypFbozrTlGja_ffQjFOj4RNROihTGw

If reproducible, it would be good news for a change. This info might belong in the other thread.

[degrub]

Only slightly better than anecdotal report.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... This info might belong in the other thread.

Perhaps, but I found it hard to switch back and forth both threads and avoid infecting (pardon the pun) the non-political thread wlth my political comments, if I get confused.

Besides, I thought it would be a welcome reprieve from the kindergarten bickering going on in this thread

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Only slightly better than anecdotal report.

Yes, 455 times better.

Ooops... here I go into kindergarten bickering again

[kers]

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Bernard is simply a Trump hating zealot.  He has lost all perspective.  Should we say the same for you?

who is we?
and mind your language...
I have enough perspective thankyouverymuch.
And... it is you that comes with the word hatred all the time - stop that too.

[Craig Lamson]

Now, that really takes the cake. Why not to take the death cap mushroom? Just as an experiment, but it might kill the virus. Any Trump fan would see the logic.

Are you denying that the medical community been trying  just about anything that they can to find something that might work on covid?  And since when exactly have to been given the right to tell licenced physicians how to treat their patients with the patients consent using a drug that has been in use for 65 years?

[Craig Lamson]

who is we?
and mind your language...
I have enough perspective thankyouverymuch.
And... it is you that comes with the word hatred all the time - stop that too.

So now you want to tell us want WE can't do to try and combat covid, and how WE can talk, and how WE can feel. How does it feel to be a king?

Go suck and egg.

[Craig Lamson]

And the Trumpateers line right up with the Trumpster and spew this shit. Do these people actually have their own brains that can think for themselves rather than blindly and stupidly follow their Commander idiot.

We can clearly see that there is a lack of mental capacity in your posts.  If that constitutes not having your own brain will most likely need to wait until an autospy or a brain scan.

[chez]

So now you want to tell us want WE can't do to try and combat covid, and how WE can talk, and how WE can feel. How does it feel to be a king?

Go suck and egg.

No...Trump is doing that for you...sheeple.

[faberryman]

Are you denying that the medical community been trying  just about anything that thay can to find something that might work on covid?  And since when exactly have to been given the right to tell licenced physicians how to treat their patients with the patients consent using a drug that has been in use for 65 years?

I am pretty sure they have not been trying "just about anything".

I am not interfering with the physician/patient relationship by questioning Trump's judgment in asking to use the drug. He has the right to take the drug if it is prescribed for him. I have the right not to vote for him, and advocate that others not vote for him, because I think he has poor judgment. I also doubt that Trump's doctor would have prescribed the drug for any of his other patients, and was simply loath to say no to the President. I will add that from time to time, I do question the ethics of some doctors in prescribing certain medicines (for example, opioids) to patients who pay the right fee, and believe it appropriate to do so.