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Cooking up breakfast
« on: February 26, 2020, 12:26:07 pm »

Pilgrim in camp during the Kumb Mela festival in India.
 
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2020, 02:42:47 pm »

You're still on a roll, Chez. Keep shooting.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2020, 02:46:25 pm »

Pilgrim in camp during the Kumb Mela festival in India.

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If I'm out for a nice quiet dinner ... and some Yahoo photographer comes along the street and tries to take our photo...he'll end up with a broken camera...if not a nose.

I gather your camera and nose are ok?  ;)

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2020, 02:52:50 pm »

I gather your camera and nose are ok?  ;)

My experience in India is that the majority of people are amenable to being photographed and those who aren't make it perfectly clear that they're not.

In short, a photographer's paradise.
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Re: Cooking up breakfast
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2020, 04:47:04 pm »

I gather your camera and nose are ok?  ;)

Actually I was invited into their camp to take photos and they even gave me some breakfast. I must have taken a couple dozen posed photos of everyone and their dog in the camp. I spent a few minutes with this lady getting to know her and watched as she cooked up some breakfast. She was very amenable of me taking her photo.

My photos are either taken from a distance thus not in someone's face or I have permission to take their photo...much different than running up to some stranger and sticking a camera into their face to get some goofy expression.
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Re: Cooking up breakfast
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2020, 04:48:01 pm »

My experience in India is that the majority of people are amenable to being photographed and those who aren't make it perfectly clear that they're not.

In short, a photographer's paradise.

Exactly. I had people running up to me and asking to be photographed. Now Morocco...a total different story.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2020, 07:07:13 pm »

...much different than running up to some stranger and sticking a camera into their face to get some goofy expression.

It is different. But why are we talking about it? There are only two photographers in the world that practice that, Bruce Gilden and that Japanese guy. Most of us don't do it like that (actually, I do not do it at all).

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2020, 07:19:08 pm »

It is different. But why are we talking about it? There are only two photographers in the world that practice that, Bruce Gilden and that Japanese guy. Most of us don't do it like that (actually, I do not do it at all).

Ummm...I believe you brought up the subject in this thread with your first post. I'd personally would rather discuss the image.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2020, 07:30:10 pm »

Ummm...I believe you brought up the subject in this thread with your first post. I'd personally would rather discuss the image.

I quoted your opinion from another thread about street photography, where you advocated a bloody nose as a response. But the issue (in the other thread) is street photography in general, not necessarily the in-your-face approach by the two aforementioned photographers. Although Bruce does it in New York, where nothing surprises anyone.

If you want to talk about the picture, it is ok, but hardly able to stand on its own, outside some reportage narrative.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2020, 04:11:21 am »

Now Morocco...a total different story.

Yes. My experience of Morocco was marred by constant demands for money. I've never felt more like a walking wallet. I shan't be going back.

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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2020, 05:13:14 am »

Yes. My experience of Morocco was marred by constant demands for money. I've never felt more like a walking wallet. I shan't be going back.

Jeremy

All the more room for those of us who love the place.



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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2020, 05:51:16 am »

Yes. My experience of Morocco was marred by constant demands for money. I've never felt more like a walking wallet. I shan't be going back.

Jeremy

They assume that you're making money with your photography.
They just want their part. If you'd got a model you'd also have to pay her.

Not only that. The behaviour of many foreigners makes people angry.

Just an anecdote:
I remember watching a bus full of tourists halting outside a kasbah.
Lots of chidren came running for candies or coins, as they usually do.
One of the tourisst tossed around a handful of coins. The children ran to pick them.
The tourists took pictures of the action. Like at the zoo.
I was sitting around with a group of adult Berbers.
The Berbers were very angry...
Friendly people that feel they are being abused. Treated disrespectfully
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2020, 04:16:42 pm »

They assume that you're making money with your photography.

No, Rab, it had nothing to do with photography: most of the time, I didn't even have a camera.

Jeremy
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2020, 04:42:41 pm »

...much different than running up to some stranger and sticking a camera into their face to get some goofy expression.

Chez,

Who's brand of street photography are you siting here? I'm curious. It's a type of photography I abhor!

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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2020, 04:44:41 pm »

No, Rab, it had nothing to do with photography: most of the time, I didn't even have a camera.

Jeremy


Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Since this is a photography thread I assumed wrongly that we were talking of photography related issues-
My fault   ::)
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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2020, 05:35:41 pm »

... Lots of chidren came running for candies or coins, as they usually do.
One of the tourisst tossed around a handful of coins. The children ran to pick them...

Chicken or egg?

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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2020, 07:16:50 am »

Chicken or egg?

If you read the Bible, you'd know that it is the chicken that was created first.
From the evolutionary point of view there was first a non-chicken bird, kind of "proto-chicken" who laid an egg containing for the first time the DNA (through mutationen etc) of the "modern-chicken". So the egg was first.

So if you prefer clear cut answers, I'd reccomend you the Bible.
If instead you prefer science, I reccomend you Campbell's Biology.
Both are thick books    :)

This said, the chicken-egg dilemma does not apply in this case anyway.

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2020, 07:35:12 am »

...This said, the chicken-egg dilemma does not apply in this case anyway.

How so?

Who started first? Tourists throwing coins made kids run for it, or kids first swirled around tourists ("as they usually do") until they throw coins or candies to free themselves?

Who's to be angry at in this situation: a seemingly despondent Cuban kid on the street... a passing American tourist feels sorry for the boy and offers him a dollar, probably 10% of his parents monthly salary, which he accepts.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2020, 08:17:38 am »

Slobodan, you missed the point.
It looks like you start answering before reading and understanding the text.

I'll try to explain:
One of the tourists tossed around a handful of coins. The children ran to pick them.
The tourists took pictures of the action. Like at the zoo.


The point is:
"The tourists took pictures of the action. Like at the zoo."
That's the point you missed. That's what made the adults angry.

Maybe a different example, Slobodan.
If I go to a restaurant I usually give a tip. Where I live it is voluntary.
Sometimes I give more, sometimes less.

But I would never throw the money to the floor an take photos of the waiter (eventually) picking it up.
Notice the difference?
Hope this helps.


I'm not going to enter an argument "the other children started the fight..."
I'm older than that now.

And PLEESE, no offence meant. Just different idiosincracies...
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Re: Cooking up breakfast
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2020, 09:02:50 am »

The tossing of coins is as old as the hills, or at least as old as the venerable Frank Horvat.

In one of the sections of his vast horvatland site he mentions running away from a crowd and escaping by that very device: throwing the contents of his pocket onto the street. I think it was in Calcutta. But he came prepared for it.

http://www.horvatland.com/WEB/main.htm

Rob



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