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Jeremy Roussak

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« on: October 07, 2019, 02:17:37 pm »

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2019, 03:28:02 pm »

Good shooting, Jeremy.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2019, 05:48:43 pm »

Excellent graphic.
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Re: diagonal
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2019, 09:18:44 pm »

Excellent graphic.

Yes. I might try desaturating the berg a hair.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2019, 06:04:17 am »

Like it
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Re: diagonal
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2019, 02:17:59 pm »

I like this image a lot. Consider this. It might be worth trying a crop on the right so that diagonal does not go to the corner and take the eye immediately out of the image. You may have to adjust the left side to make it balance. Quite striking.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2019, 02:31:17 pm »

Here come the croppers. Run for it.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2019, 07:33:14 pm »

Here come the croppers. Run for it.
Come on Russ, it's a simple crop suggestion that the maker may or may not like. You know the kind that is taught in every school of photography to not only possibly improve an image, but also to see an alternate take on what is presented. I think we as photographers do this all the time.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2019, 03:15:38 am »

I like this image a lot. Consider this. It might be worth trying a crop on the right so that diagonal does not go to the corner and take the eye immediately out of the image. You may have to adjust the left side to make it balance. Quite striking.

Interesting, John. I discussed my decision to frame the shot as I have, with the diagonal going into the corner, with the three instructors at the workshop in Greenland. None disagreed; and if you look at Art Wolfe's blog (https://artwolfe.com/blog) and scroll down to the Greenland slide show, you'll see that he has a very similar photograph, with the same berg a little further away from the slope but the same arrangement of diagonal and corner.

That's not to say that any opinion on the point is right or wrong, of course.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2019, 09:34:11 am »

To me it feels honest to have the diagonal meet the corner. Moving it anywhere else would feel like an attempt to satisfy the "rule" (ugh!) that no line should meet a corner.

Your instructors have good taste, IMHO. (I.e., they agree with me.   ;)  )
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Re: diagonal
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2019, 09:50:49 am »

Wow! How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2019, 10:57:28 am »

Wow! How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
I don't know Russ. But when they fall from the sky trying to reach their no-crop heaven, surely they will need those pins to reattach their wings. The image is fine. Jeremy did post the image for comments and I thought it would be interesting to see it with the diagonal slightly away from the corner.

To me it feels honest to have the diagonal meet the corner. Moving it anywhere else would feel like an attempt to satisfy the "rule" (ugh!) that no line should meet a corner.

Your instructors have good taste, IMHO. (I.e., they agree with me.   ;)  )
Eric, you got me cornered. I didn't know about this rule. I thought us abstractionists didn't have rules ::)
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Re: diagonal
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2019, 12:34:54 pm »

John, I've never said I never crop, but I only do it in a situation where because of the aspect ratio of the sensor or blockage in the view (See HCB'S Behind the Gare) I can't frame the picture properly. I don't believe in banging away and then seeing whether or not I can make something out of it in post processing.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2019, 05:17:25 pm »

Wow! How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

For that you should look in the Coffee Corner.
There are lots of discussions at that level going on
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Re: diagonal
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2019, 05:27:53 pm »

John, I've never said I never crop, but I only do it in a situation where because of the aspect ratio of the sensor or blockage in the view (See HCB'S Behind the Gare) I can't frame the picture properly. I don't believe in banging away and then seeing whether or not I can make something out of it in post processing.

I remember in the Good Old Days some photographers I knew used a larger frame in the enlarger so that the photograph would show the borders of the film like a thin black frame.
This should "prove" that the image was not cropped. Some kind of "Leica-Format" fetishism.
They seemed to think that the world outside there was created in 2x3 or 4x5 format...  ;)
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Re: diagonal
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2019, 07:47:03 pm »

That got started by HCB, who insisted on having the black borders show, sometimes with sprocket holes.

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Re: diagonal
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2019, 01:10:08 pm »

Maybe darken the background behind the berg and reduce the clarity/contrast in the water so so overall focus is on the diagonal leading to the berg.
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