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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3080 on: January 16, 2020, 11:21:17 am »

If he loses, what will we do?  :)

I don't know about you, but for us:

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3081 on: January 16, 2020, 11:43:06 am »

And if he wins?

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3082 on: January 16, 2020, 11:48:52 am »

Ah yes. Good ol' NBCFake news. That'll keep us up to date.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3083 on: January 16, 2020, 11:58:41 am »

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3084 on: January 16, 2020, 11:59:47 am »

Will Republicans admit that Trump did what he did purely for selfish  reasons?   Never.

Will Democrats admit that what Biden did  justified what Trump did?  Not in your lifetime.

The hypocrisy is vomit inducing. 

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3085 on: January 16, 2020, 12:03:25 pm »

Will Republicans admit that Trump did what he did purely for selfish  reasons?   Never.

Will Democrats admit that what Biden did  justified what Trump did?  Not in your lifetime.

The hypocrisy is vomit inducing. 


er...both of these can't be true.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3086 on: January 16, 2020, 12:12:39 pm »

er...both of these can't be true.

Can one do the right thing for the wrong reason?
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3087 on: January 16, 2020, 12:21:25 pm »

And if he wins?

How snobbish of you... moving to Canada. Why don't you move to Nigeria, like the real celebrity?

https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-cardi-b-nigeria-citizenship-memes-are-fire-20200109-nyw4khu3zvf6xgrrgl3zoys6da-story.html

"Cardi B announced in a profane tweet last Friday that she wanted Nigerian citizenship... Cardi’s tweet criticized President Trump after the U.S. killed Iranian general Qassem Soleimani in a drone strike. Fed up with Trump’s leadership, she expressed a desire for dual-citizenship..."

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3088 on: January 16, 2020, 12:30:14 pm »

IS ANYONE SURPRISED?

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Peter, when you post a link, say why you're posting it and give a summary of the information at the end of the link. I have made this abundantly clear on several occasions.

Jeremy
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3089 on: January 16, 2020, 12:45:38 pm »

Can one do the right thing for the wrong reason?

"One" can.  Apparently Republicans cannot.  They get tripped up on that whole "do the right thing" part, you see.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3090 on: January 16, 2020, 01:38:41 pm »

Ah yes. Good ol' NBCFake news. That'll keep us up to date.

Is the same story on Fox fake news? On Politico? Etc etc. Anyway it is an official report issued by the GAO whose head is a presidential appointee. Go give it up.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3091 on: January 16, 2020, 01:39:48 pm »

IS ANYONE SURPRISED?

The Government Accountability Office, the U.S. government's internal auditing agency, published a decision today which concludes that the Office of Management and Budget in the Trump White House violated the law when it withheld financial aid appropriated by Congress for security assistance to Ukraine.

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The Constitution specifically vests Congress with the power of the purse, providing that “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.”  U.S. Const. art. I, § 9, cl. 7.  The Constitution also vests all legislative powers in Congress and sets forth the procedures of bicameralism and presentment, through which the President may accept or veto a bill passed by both Houses of Congress, and Congress may subsequently override a presidential veto.  Id., art. I, § 7, cl. 2, 3.  The President is not vested with the power to ignore or amend any such duly enacted law.  See Clinton v. City of New York, 524 U.S. 417, 438 (1998) (the Constitution does not authorize the President “to enact, to amend, or to repeal statutes”).  Instead, he must “faithfully execute” the law as Congress enacts it.  U.S. Const., art. II, § 3.

The GAO report does not characterize the reason for the delay in withholding the aid―i.e., this nonpartisan agency of Congress does not take a position in its decision regarding whether President Trump was trying to extract improper political concessions from Ukraine.  The decision only states that "[f]aithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law."

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3092 on: January 16, 2020, 01:40:10 pm »

Peter, when you post a link, say why you're posting it and give a summary of the information at the end of the link. I have made this abundantly clear on several occasions.

Jeremy

The text of the link explains it.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3093 on: January 16, 2020, 01:56:14 pm »

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3094 on: January 16, 2020, 02:33:30 pm »

::)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gao-says-trump-admin-broke-law-ukraine

From the Fox article:

"GAO’s findings are a pretty clear overreach as they attempt to insert themselves into the media’s controversy of the day. Further, GAO has a history of the flip-flops, reversing 40-years of precedent this year on their pocket rescission decision, they were also forced to reverse a legally faulty opinion when they opposed the reimbursement of federal employee travel costs. In their rush to insert themselves in the impeachment narrative, maybe they’ll have to reverse their opinion again.”

I might add that the meaning of the word "opinion" makes everything clear (except to those who refuse to accept direct evidence and prefer opinion).
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3095 on: January 16, 2020, 02:36:56 pm »

The Government Accountability Office, the U.S. government's internal auditing agency, published a decision today which concludes that the Office of Management and Budget in the Trump White House violated the law...

Further proof that the long march through institutions succeeded.

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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3096 on: January 16, 2020, 02:55:11 pm »

From the Fox article:

"GAO’s findings are a pretty clear overreach as they attempt to insert themselves into the media’s controversy of the day. Further, GAO has a history of the flip-flops, reversing 40-years of precedent this year on their pocket rescission decision, they were also forced to reverse a legally faulty opinion when they opposed the reimbursement of federal employee travel costs. In their rush to insert themselves in the impeachment narrative, maybe they’ll have to reverse their opinion again.”

That quote is attributed to a "senior administration official" i.e. a Trump mouthpiece, ergo you're sorely mistaken with your "conclusion" here. Remember - everything that comes out of this administration is a lie.  This is no different.

I might add that the meaning of the word "opinion" makes everything clear (except to those who refuse to accept direct evidence and prefer opinion).

By the way, the original NBC article featured the same "response" from the Trump official as well, so your "fake news" cry is also incorrect.  So much winning...   ::)
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3097 on: January 16, 2020, 03:07:32 pm »

That quote is attributed to a "senior administration official" i.e. a Trump mouthpiece, ergo you're sorely mistaken with your "conclusion" here. Remember - everything that comes out of this administration is a lie.  This is no different.

By the way, the original NBC article featured the same "response" from the Trump official as well, so your "fake news" cry is also incorrect.  So much winning...   ::)

Ah. So much losing for the Democrats... ::)  Keep watching and keep laughing, James. Nancy has screwed up royally, though it was hard for her to outdo Schiff's and Nadler's screwups. The result is going to be a Republican House and Senate as well as four more years for Trump.
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3098 on: January 16, 2020, 03:13:07 pm »

Giuliani associate says Trump knew exactly what was going on. No surprise, really.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/giuliani-associate-parnas-says-trump-knew-exactly-what-was-going-n1116731
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Re: Impeaching Donald Trump
« Reply #3099 on: January 16, 2020, 04:15:50 pm »

Giuliani associate says Trump knew exactly what was going on. No surprise, really.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/giuliani-associate-parnas-says-trump-knew-exactly-what-was-going-n1116731

None at all.  Nice explanation of the link, though ;)
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