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Roscolo

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profiles for Canon Pro4000 work on Canon Pro1000?
« on: August 16, 2019, 07:21:37 pm »

So I run a couple of Canon large format machines (pro-4000). I was thinking of being able to make small prints remotely on a Canon pro-1000, that I could use to get approval for clients when I shoot on site, and then make larger prints on the pro-4000 later that I can deliver or ship to the client. I've never used a Canon pro-1000. I make and use my own profiles, and I also use some manufacturer profiles. Can I use the profiles made for the pro-4000 to make prints on the pro-1000 and expect those prints to reasonably match prints made on the pro-4000? Tx
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Re: profiles for Canon Pro4000 work on Canon Pro1000?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 10:32:45 pm »

The Pro-2000 and Pro-4000 are definitely cross-compatible. The 1000 should be very, very close - it's actually the exact same head from the 1000 all the way up to the 6000. The only thing that gives me any pause at all is that the ink delivery to the head is unique in the 1000 (coming out of the head, which is what really matters, it should be the same - but I'm not sure the 1000 is identical before that point). They may well be compatible, and if not, they're really close...

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Re: profiles for Canon Pro4000 work on Canon Pro1000?
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 09:42:45 am »

Apparently the 17" will be just slightly different than the larger models, even though it's the same print head and colors.  It's probably based on the "guts" of the printer that makes it different on printing.

Making a custom profile will be better anyway, but you'll probably see a subtle difference from what our Canon rep checked with their tech dept.  The 24" - 60" models should be fine using the same profile though.
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Re: profiles for Canon Pro4000 work on Canon Pro1000?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2019, 02:23:42 pm »

I covered all this in my January 2017 review of the Canon Pro-2000 published on this website: https://luminous-landscape.com/canon-pro-2000-review-and-related-items-of-interest/
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Re: profiles for Canon Pro4000 work on Canon Pro1000?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2019, 03:55:34 pm »

In my opinion, running proof prints on one printer and then expecting to get the same results with the same settings on another printer is a futile exercise.  I'm sure a custom profile would render much closer results, but it all depends on how much of a difference you will settle for in the long run.  Therefore, why not simply print perhaps two or three full color images images on both printers and then try to match them, using the P4000 as the final work printer as you have indicated.  Once you have made the proper adjustments on the images for the P4000 to match the P1000 you can then use those exact adjustments on the P4000 for future printing and they should be very close.  This will of course take a bit of time and effort, as well as a good eye for the subtle differences that must be taken into consideration.   
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Re: profiles for Canon Pro4000 work on Canon Pro1000?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2019, 08:20:27 am »

I never could on my Epsons. The profile for my 4800 wouldn't work very well on my 7800 or 9800, though the latter two were similar. My understanding is that the difference is in the printer driver, which is different for the smaller printers than for the larger ones.
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