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Ivo_B

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« on: November 23, 2019, 11:42:56 am »

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Re: Sand
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2019, 12:10:38 pm »

Man, you have funny titles... none of that is sand. Concrete, dirt, gravel.

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Re: Sand
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2019, 12:18:03 pm »

I have a relatively positive attitude towards my subjects.
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Re: Sand
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2019, 10:06:52 pm »

Man, you have funny titles... none of that is sand. Concrete, dirt, gravel.

They use sand for concrete, don’t they?  ;)

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Re: Sand
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2019, 12:43:33 am »

Man, you have funny titles... none of that is sand. Concrete, dirt, gravel.

It’s a funny tile I agree.

Your use of dirt in this context is very American though. Outside of America dirt is almost never used in this context. Dirt is used as in your hands are dirty. Usually ground, earth, soil and so on is used. The generally brown stuff outside that plants grow in is not referred to as dirt. No real point to this I guess I just find it interesting. And I need to go edit 45 images of office chairs and I don’t feel like it.
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Re: Sand
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2019, 01:07:02 am »

It’s a funny tile I agree.

Your use of dirt in this context is very American though. Outside of America dirt is almost never used in this context. Dirt is used as in your hands are dirty. Usually ground, earth, soil and so on is used. The generally brown stuff outside that plants grow in is not referred to as dirt...

From the look of it, I can’t imagine plants growing in it, other than weed. It isn’t a fertile soil, but probably a mixture of construction material, gravel, and earth. The word “dirt” has at least three meanings:

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Re: Sand
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2019, 05:17:55 am »

From the look of it, I can’t imagine plants growing in it, other than weed. It isn’t a fertile soil, but probably a mixture of construction material, gravel, and earth. The word “dirt” has at least three meanings:

[smartass]And what makes the difference between weed and a plant? It's only a matter of perception.[/smartass]
Poppies do grow on dirt. Ask Major John McRea.
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In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


Photography isn't a too serious matter, isn't it? :-)

Of course the title is cynical.
I'll give a bit socio cultural background (Whoeha)

Flanders is a 100% urbanized 13522 km2 plot of land.
Chernozem, Black soil, the fertile 20cm top layer is expensive and treated like gold. Black soil is business.

Ground-workers earn massive money with the excavation of soil to build the foundation of a house and move the material to another site to ground level the area. The yellow sand could be used, but since this is valuable material for other purposes, also too expensive to fill up gaps, instead, rubble is used.
When one builds a house on the location of a previous house, the remains of the old house are used to level out the surface. (In Flanders we don't build in wood, mostly in red brickwork)
And here comes an interesting detail. In old houses, lots of asbestos is used, asbestos in the roof, asbestos in the linoleum, asbestos in the window sills, etc etc. As long as the asbestos is in bound condition, it's not a big deal, but when the rubble is send to rubble shredders,... I don't need explain further... Soil Asbestos pollution is not uncommon.
And then the fifties and sixties: Concrete was the new thing. And now, some of the concrete contraptions, built with inferior quality of concrete are demolished and ground-worker companies used the concrete rubble as 'dirt' to level out for roads and other infra works. Time learned that the concrete rubble decompose and loose its filling capacity in time. Subsidence and road slip as result.

All this lead into legal required quality labels and this drives up the cost of filling material, soil, sand and all what you can put under ground level. Quality fraude is an unavoidable result.



And now the link to the title.

When I see a pile of low quality soil, I call it a pile of commercial graded black soil. At least, for what it has been sold.



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Re: Sand
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2019, 06:34:03 am »

I remember looking up "Grammar Nazi" short ago.
Somehow it came back to my mind.
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Re: Sand
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2019, 07:30:21 am »

They use sand for concrete, don’t they?  ;)

That's a huge YES!!!

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Re: Sand
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2019, 07:42:20 am »


That's a huge YES!!!

Peter


But not from the beach. Beach sand is also full of sodium chloride and other salts and doesn't work for long as part of concrete mixes. Of course, washing is an option, but that is also expensive...

No free lunches.

If I may say so, this is another example of why the moderating function of LuLa is so invaluable: sites that are oh so strictly bound to topic have no wider interest function, whereas here, there is so much to pick up on and learn that's not necessarily photographic. I like that.
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Re: Sand
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2019, 07:44:33 am »

The titles of both Duchamp's 'The Bride Stripped Bare by her Bachelors, Even' and Dali's 'The Persistence of Memory' only add to my admiration for the works.

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Re: Sand
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2019, 07:50:54 am »

From the look of it, I can’t imagine plants growing in it, other than weed. It isn’t a fertile soil, but probably a mixture of construction material, gravel, and earth. The word “dirt” has at least three meanings:

Interesting word and how it is used in different places.
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Re: Sand
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2019, 07:52:26 am »


No free lunches.

Can be Free for the consumer, but not for the provider...

Peter

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Re: Sand
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2019, 08:31:53 am »

I remember looking up "Grammar Nazi" short ago.
Somehow it came back to my mind.

Explain?
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Re: Sand
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2019, 08:37:49 am »

Explain?

Grammar Nazi: One who uses refined vocabulary, correct grammar, constantly finds themselves correcting grammar and spelling (in forums, chatrooms, tumblr, YouTube, etc.)

For me myself personally this sand, gravel, dirt and whatever issue rang a bell.
Just MHO
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Re: Sand
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2019, 08:43:10 am »

Grammar Nazi: One who uses refined vocabulary, correct grammar, constantly finds themselves correcting grammar and spelling (in forums, chatrooms, tumblr, YouTube, etc.)

For me myself personally this sand, gravel, dirt and whatever issue rang a bell.
Just MHO
Thank to explain.
I’m always worried my shitty English irritates other members.
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Re: Sand
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2019, 10:06:25 am »

They use sand for concrete, don’t they?  ;)

This logic reminds me of a recent airport dispute where a lady with a bottle of frozen water argued its isn’t a liquid. TSA wasn’t impressed  ;)

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Re: Sand
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2019, 10:10:36 am »

But not from the beach. Beach sand is also full of sodium chloride and other salts and doesn't work for long as part of concrete mixes. Of course, washing is an option, but that is also expensive...

Yep. Also:

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Even the United Arab Emirates imported $456m worth of sand, stone and gravel in 2014, according to the UN. Despite being in the heart of the desert, imported sand built Dubai, according to Pascal. Wind-formed desert sand is too smooth for construction.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20160502-even-desert-city-dubai-imports-its-sand-this-is-why

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Re: Sand
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2019, 11:03:13 am »

Grammar Nazi: One who uses refined vocabulary, correct grammar, constantly finds themselves correcting grammar and spelling (in forums, chatrooms, tumblr, YouTube, etc.)

For me myself personally this sand, gravel, dirt and whatever issue rang a bell.

You're confusing vocabulary with grammar.

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Re: Sand
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2019, 11:11:43 am »

You're confusing vocabulary with grammar.

Jeremy


...For me myself personally this sand, gravel, dirt and whatever issue rang a bell. ...

"Ring a bell" in my poor English is something like "sound vaguely familiar" , Herr Roussak  ;)
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